Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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     🔺    This place is a RussianChinese bot farm disinformation campaign 
     69k   filled with CCP shills and Russian trolls. 
     🔻    I doubt there are any real human posters here. 
          
           Edit1: Wow, so many updoots! 
           Edit2: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger! 
    
    
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      Looks like a confused liberal wandered into the Hexbear thread about confused liberals wandering into Hexbear, then pretended like it was a made up phenomenon.

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          Legit question: having never been to China, or seeing anything regarding the news about China for yourself in any capacity whatsoever, do you ever stop to consider even for a moment that maybe you’ve been misled by those with all the power and incentive in the world to mislead you? Or do you just take it on good faith that opposing forces to those with power over you are somehow always totally ungood double-bad?

          Follow up question: assuming you’re aware as most of the public is that all the means of justification for invading Iraq + Afghanistan were entirely manufactured, do you ever question what else might be made up by the same entities?

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            China is in the news all the time, last time I checked they were dealing with floods.

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              The bourgeois press lied to me about Iraq and Vietnam, but surely they are telling the truth about China, a country I have never been to and know nothing about! Marvel at my extreme intelligence, fellow redditors!

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    Put it this way, CTH was tiny compared to the size of reddit yet it had such an impact on the site that Reddit’s admins wanted it gone to stop the left pressure it created.

    Hexbear is significantly larger comparatively when compared with the size of Lemmy. The influence we have on Lemmy is larger than it was on reddit. Currently at least, assuming Lemmy continues to grow that might not be true in future, but for now it absolutely is. Particularly because we’re only on a few instances.

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    I’m glad we aren’t a propagandized echo chamber like those putin bots berdly-smug

    Here are links that explain why i disagree with you on china hexbear-pride

    Mods! MOOOOODS! screm rage-cry

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    Bots are like 60% of all posts and comments online. Most of the time you’re talking to bots designed to click-bait you. I’m probably talking to only bots right now. Just how it is.

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    WAIT A MINUTE THAT’S NOT FROM AN APPROVED SOURCE ON MY MEDIA BIAS INFOGRAPHIC.

    MODS MODS PLEASE REMOVE THIS

    THESE CLAIMS AREN’T BACKED BY A DNC NGO, THEREFORE IT’S DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION THAT’S HELPING REPUBLICANS WIN.

    THOSE ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY THE US WERE NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE RULES BASED INTERNATIONAL ORDER, I’M SORRY IT HAPPENED BUT WE COULDN’T BE HERE NOW WITHOUT IT.

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    I was honestly not excited about federation and still think we will be de-federated within hours (is that possible?) because liberals cannot stand being so consistently embarrassed by Marxists BUT I will say that a major factor in my radicalization was finding r/chapotraphouse years ago back on reddit. For every lib we dunk on, others will start to wonder and ask questions and even laugh along with communist jokes (by far the funniest on the internet). Liberalism actually has an extremely limited appeal, the democrats excite almost no one, and it’s true that some of their more lukewarm supporters just don’t know that you can fight liberalism without being a fucking nazi.

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    What a dumb say nothing shitpost. Leave your fucking basement for once your in life.

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      In seriousness, in Chinese currency, there is fen (1分), 10 fen is a mao (1毛) and 10 mao is 1 yuan (1元)

      In some liberal fever dream, people were paid 5 mao per post to defend the CPC on the internet. Which doesn’t really make a lot of sense since they also believe mentioning Tiananmen Square will get you SWATed. So dissent is never posted online, but when it is there’s a ready team of professional posters defending China. Which even the west admits is a lie, even the Wikipedia article notes “In contrast to common assumptions, the 50 Cent Party consists mostly of paid bureaucrats who respond to government directives and rarely defend their government from criticism or engage in direct arguments because “… the goal of this massive secretive operation is instead to distract the public and change the subject.””

      This has spread to any defense or China on a western platform being done by highly bilingual Chinese state employees for 50 cents a post.

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    Everybody posting from a Hexbear account can instantly be disregarded as a Russian bot. They need to read more Wikipedia pages about China and North Korea instead of fairy tales about make believe economics

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      It’s sad because even Wikipedia has a better grasp of what happened in cases like tinyman square than these libs do. We on hexbear are haunted by the specter of Harry Potter being the only literature liberals have read on their own accord

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      It’s funny to me that Libs simultaneously believe that Russia is a gas station with an army but at the same time has a legion of Turing-complete bots capable of shitposting.

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      Its not about being a shill for Xi. Its about defending the country that went from having a 20% literacy rate to a country with its own space station in the span of 70 years. With railways and infrastructure that outshines those of the American empire, the richest nation in the history of the be world.

      You may not call it socialism but it is still worth defending. My family and friends in China see improvement and growth before their very eyes. Dirt roads are now high speed rail. How many working class Americans can say things have gotten better in the last few decades? That they can afford to dine out more often, that they can afford a bigger apartment? How many can say their children are getting better educated, that schools are improving, that their extra curricular sports programs have gotten funding? How many can say that they’ve seen a new hospital built in a lower income area, or at all? I know households where the grandparents grew up literally illiterate, like animals they weren’t given an education, without running water or electricity, and in leaner months would have to skip meals to pay the landlord. Today their bilingual grand children sit next to them in a home that they own, learning physics from a Livestream from the Chinese Space Station. Can you even conceive that level of improvement to a life, let alone a million, let alone a billion?

      And the sheltered Reddit libs cannot understand that people would defend that. They cannot understand why people would defend that. They must be shills, there’s no way anyone could genuinely defend a system that improved the lives of a billion people and abolished poverty. Our memes depict Xi as Winnie the Pooh, so those defending China must be robots or paid shills. No-one would actually defend China right?

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        All the Chinese people in China who I totally really know in real life for sure. Those Chinese people in China that I totally really know all say they love love Xi. It’s totally because they really really want to and not because dissent isn’t allowed. They totally didn’t start making grade schoolers go to several extra hours of school a day to learn to worship Xi 2 years ago btw. Also there is no air pollution in Beijing. Did I mention I totally know some Chinese people. You’re all a bunch of sheltered white libs…not like me. I mean yeah, I am a lib, only 15, white, and I do live in my parents basement…but I know things, things that you don’t. There’s no way other people have any experience of the world so you have to believe, because I pretend…I mean DO, I do know some Chinese people in China and they are Chinese. They totally love their Chinese life in China where everyone has 120% literacy rate and reads 5 astrophysics books on their way to work in Beijing where there’s no air pollution in China.

        …China

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          It really just blows your mind that there are real people with real opinions based on their life experiences that don’t reflect your biases, doesn’t it.

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            It’s just evident that you don’t actually have that real life experience. This is not what Chinese people say when not under duress. Something like 80% of Chinese people not living in China (read, who aren’t forced to support the government) disapprove of the Chinese government. I’ve lived and worked with Chinese people. They don’t say what you say they’re saying. I’ve lived and worked in communist countries. It’s not this socialist utopia you make it out to be. So yeah, it’s pretty clear you don’t have any idea what you’re saying. You keep talking about “Experience” when it’s obvious you don’t have any…I do. So fuck off with your fantastical agenda pushing bullshit.

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              Thanks for telling me what 80% [citations needed] of all Chinese people (not counting the vast majority of them because they live in China) think. I’m sure they also appreciate being spoken for. Maybe people who like living in China don’t see a reason to leave? Seems like a pretty obvious explanation, even if I ignore the statistic being direct from your ass.

              Your “real life experience” is a pretty funny idea too, seeing as how you apparently think that all 1.4 billion Chinese people are so effectively controlled that even though they all hate living there they will never let their friends and family know. Seems like a fantasy to me. I could say that about the US “all Americans hate the us and want to leave but they aren’t allowed to say so, so they pretend to like it” it would be patently stupid and there would be no evidence of it, so it’d be on par with your claims.

              As far as a utopia, no one said that but you, it’s just a strawman argument. It is impossible to make an argument that material conditions for people in China are not improving at one of the most rapid rates in the world.

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              Something like 80% of Chinese people not living in China (read, who aren’t forced to support the government) disapprove of the Chinese government.

              Rich people who can afford to leave and settle permanently in a foreign land disapprove of Communist home country, shocking!

              I’ve lived and worked in communist countries.

              Were you with the CIA or…?

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              Go to Sydney Chinatown and ask them what the opinion of China is and 80% will be pro China not against.

              Strike up a conversation in Mandarin with a line cook or waitress, any one of the working class.

              Having to pretend to dislike China is a defense mechanism, otherwise the cumskins will turn on you like you’re a subhuman or a spy because they all have attitudes like you, which I do get reinforces the notion that overseas Chinese dislike China. But hate crimes against Asians are on the rise, so better safe than sorry.

              We are not some brainwashed masses at the beck and call of the CPC, liberals like you just don’t understand the concept of critical support. You’re either 100% behind something or 100% against it.