Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.

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    I just want a nice story driven single player game from Valve again that isn’t VR.

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      Same. Something I can play, save anywhere to deal with life, and pick back up when time allows. I was one of those weirdos who really enjoyed Doom 3 when it came out (with the ducttape mod; that was one mechanic I didn’t like) and grew up on old Commodore, Amiga, and PC single-player games and NES/SNES/Genisis RPGs. I want that again.

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      Have you played A Plague Tale (innocence, then requiem)? It’s one of the best story driven games I’ve ever played. It’s entirely linear, so plot urgency doesn’t feel artificial like it does in open world games.

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        I played the first one but not the second yet. I did enjoyed the experience and the hairstyles stood out for the character designs with the ribbons.

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        Wasn’t last years game of the year, Baldurs gate 3, a triple Aaa, single player, game that had an amazing story?

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          Hang on, that is a single player game? I now auto-discard AAA games up front because most of them are online multiplayer affairs with fancy in-game items to purchase and silly anti-cheat gimmicks that give Linux users a hard time.

          I might look into buying this one, then.

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            Yep. You can play alone, couch co-op with controllers, or with friends online if that’s what you’re into. I’ve logged a couple of hundred hours alone and another hundred or so couch co-op.

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    1000 IQ power move: Valve promotes a fake game with fake trailers and fake reviews.

    Day of the release approaches.

    People buy and fire it up.

    Starting screen says “Half Life 3”.

    Thousands die from a stroke.

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      I’d like a HL3, but not yet another competitive pvp game. So not sure if that would be the right approach if they can’t even hit the same target audience.

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    Isn’t an overwatch style hero shooter just team fortress 2? Now get off my lawn, I have clouds to tell at.

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      Nah. TF2 is a shooter with 9 classes. People can double up on “soldier” for instance. A hero shooter has for one, a lot more classes / heroes (which comes from MOBAs), for two activated abilities on each hero which change the games significantly, and usually disables doubling up in competetive modes. You wouldn’t call Enemy Territory a hero shooter for instance.

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        Overwatch disabled doubling up well after launch, and only because they couldn’t or wouldn’t balance the game such that a 4 tank no DPS comp didn’t utterly cheese the game.

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          They brought it back as a gamemode called “open queue”, which nerfs tanks to be more in line with DPS.

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      Or Paragon even. That game was so fun back in the day before it got killed. If anyone can make something that fun again, it’s probably Valve.

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        There’s a remake out right now called Predecessor that I’ve been enjoying, free on PC/PS/Xbox.

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          Oh shit, I hadn’t heard of that. I’ll definitely check it out; thanks for the recommendation.

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        Was it really that good? I heard it was overwatch from wish when it launched but then got better. I never tried it, because i didn’t wanna learn something new.

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          It was a hero shooter MOBA but with some verticality, so that’s about as far as the Overwatch comparison goes. I had a great time with it. I like traditional MOBAs but don’t have the skill/patience/time for them, so hero shooter MOBAs are the perfect way for me to be able to play them more casually. In my opinion, of the few I’ve tried, Paragon was the best implementation of a hero shooter MOBA; the core gameplay just felt really tight to me.

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    Whatever it ends up being, I’m not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would’ve been better.

    Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don’t doubt Valve’s technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it’s technically the best turd in the world.

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      That’s unfortunate that it’s not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it’s not to your tastes doesn’t mean it’s a waste of their talent.

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        Oh absolutely. I’m not conceited enough to imagine Valve is developing games for me or that I’m entitled to anything. Just venting my personal disappointment with their choice. I still consider them the cream of the crop in game and hardware development.

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    Valve famously only works on what excites them. You’re yelling me THIS is that?? How utterly defeatingly disappointing.

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      Like idk, when overwatch came out, it was an absolute blast. I wasn’t looking forward to it at all, i didn’t care for it a bit until i played it. It just got run into the ground slowly. Also they made team fortress 2 way WAY before, and yeah that’s what they excites them.

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      Typically valve only puts out games that showcase something new, so might be interesting

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      Valve’s game development division feels more like a weird cult than a proper game company. I don’t think they get “excited” for the things that most people get excited for. (Remember when they were excited for a virtual card game where you have to pay for every card?) The Valve of the 2000s is long gone IMO

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      Is it really surprising? It’s not like it’s their first competitive shooter.

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    I had a lot of good times and even more bad times with DotA over the years, until I finally freed myself from it years ago.

    IceFrog being behind this backed by Valve bodes well, and I think the premise of an FPS/MOBA hybrid has promise, despite the market being insanely oversaturated already.

    I’m not really interested in competitive games these days, but I hope it’ll be good to watch at least. Following The International was fun even after I quit DotA.

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      Trust me the market could use some competition. The only thing that really comes close to OW is Paladins.

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        Was gonna say. How is the hero shooter market over-saturated? There’s like 3 games that people actually know about, and like 2 of those are good/decent.

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    Why are people angry? This is exactly the kind of game valve has worked on for the last few years.

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      I’m not angry, but I’m tired of live service esports games. Also the last time Valve arrived late to a trend (Artifact) it didn’t turn out well.

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      Because many of us remember before that, when Valve revolutionized the single player first person genre again and again with the Portal and mainline Half-Life games.

      Any other dev would have capitalized on the massive interest in a sequel or at least sold off the property so someone else could have continued those franchises.

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        Yep. sigh I guess I’ll go replay Portal 2 again. It really is fantastic, I should be happy that we got it when we did.

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          Imagine downvoting someone for saying they’re going to replay one of the best single player games of all time.

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      The valve of yesteryear would’ve a great single player campaign to go together with the multiplayer, just like Half-Life.

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    It’s a Team Fortress Style Hero Shooter

    Because it’s a Valve game

    Because TF2 Inspired Overwatch

    Get it right

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    I really like what I see , and icefrog has been working on it for a long time. If he’s involved then I’m interested, the man created the moba genre and IMO the best moba on the market.

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    Ugh, as if we don’t have enough of this kind of game already. SMITE 2 and Marvel Rivals are coming soon. Valve for fucks sake, look at how well Half Life: Alyx did. I seriously hope they’re working on a future Half Life game or some new story driven style game at the very least. I’m calling it now, Deadlock is going to be another Artifact.