Linked video is part 1 of 4, and as long as it is, it’s the shortest of them.

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

I had heard vaguely about how this was a bad system before, but never before realised just quite how bad it was, and in what ways.

Warning: references to sexual assault, sexism, and racism

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    I once tried to read F.A.T.A.L.'s rulebook. Not because I wanted to play it, of course. I just thought it would be fun.

    I was wrong. It was fun for, like, ten seconds. When literally the first page of the book throws you into a scenario where you have three or four different reasons to have sex/sexually assault a woman, the book loses its charm pretty fast.

    It then quickly spirals into a gross, demeaning, disgusting pile of misogyny, gore and ignorance, all in the name of “historical accuracy”, hiding their distasteful opinions behind “prominent philosophers” and hand-picked statistics.

    I applaud anyone who is able to read more than ten pages of that abomination and survive long enough to write a review. Had I continued reading past that point, my brain would have liquefied.

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    F.A.T.A.L. is known for its graphic violent and sexual content, as well as the complexity of the underlying game system, involving higher-level mathematics

    Higher level math? Absolutely disgusting.

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      I dunno about “higher level” maths, but there is one bit where you’re asked to solve a simple year 8–level algebra equation (which is still a much higher level than any other RPG I’ve ever played asks you to do). It’s also in one of the more explicitly NSFW parts of the system.

      Specifically, you have to solve for y: (BT – 80)2 = –4y + 120, where BT is a number arrived at in an earlier step, using (CM / CV/A ) × 100. I will not be defining what CM and CV/A are in this forum in order to keep the comments SFW.

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        Hah. I was mostly just joking as it included higher maths in the same sentence as the highly sexually explicit content. But that’s interesting that they decided to implement such a convoluted way of getting to stats instead of just simplifying it with a table.

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          Oh don’t worry. There are a lot of tables in this system.

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        Is that the damage formula based on, uh, circumference?

        Haven’t actually read the book, thankfully, but I recall hearing that was a thing.

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          Yes to circumference, but no to damage. Ripping is a possibility the book discusses, but this formula is for quite the opposite.

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    I’ve never read FATAL, but I’ve read plenty about it. And I’m glad it exists, because it makes every other RPG better just by virtue of not being FATAL.

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    I kinda want to get together with my gaming group to make characters in FATAL and take the piss on the poor author

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      It’s not fun.

      Like, legitimately. It sounds fun, but then you sit down and do it, and realize there is little, if anything, redeemable even as a joke. By the time you’re done, everyone will hate themselves.

      And that’s without playing an actual game. I think we made it 3 sessions before we figured out it just wasn’t a fun game to play, even with tongue firmly punching out of our cheeks the entire time.

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      Hi, I did that with some close friends as a joke before. It starts out as a joke, but it will quickly become hellishly painful to continue. I think we stopped somewhere at distributing skill points, where the game just throws 6 pages of skills at you (not joking) and goes “just distribute these points”. Having a giant block of alphabetically sorted skills, most being absolute garbage and some only sounding ‘kinda’ useful, was my breaking point

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      Part of me agrees, but another part of me says…there are far too many rules in this about sex…including illicit forms thereof…for me to want to play this with anyone I know IRL.

      And also no part of me wants to spend the multiple hours this would probably take to roll up a character. I Googled looking for digital character generators, and they supposedly used to exist, but the official FATAL website no longer exists.

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    Holy fucking shit I love FATAL!

    There’s nothing better than creating a character with an anal circumference of a needle, then charging head first into an ogre den naked so they rape me, except my asshole is so tight they need two other ogres to pull my legs down, eventually splitting me in half on ogre cock, ending my character, who I spent four hours making.

    I’m pretty sure I’m playing the game right.