Bout damn time

  • IzzyScissor@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    Seriously. The recent story of just how many people have died from the cops ‘giving them something to calm them down’ is insane. If you’re not my doctor, you don’t get to dose me with anything.

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      6 months ago

      And that number was just the cases voluntarily reported or with legal cases that the AP could find.

      Since we have literally zero reporting requirements at a federal level for police departments, it could be 10-100x as many deaths.

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      6 months ago

      Cops job isn’t to protect you or I. It’s to protect the people who pay them and their interests. It’s just a government sanctioned gang and anyone who believes otherwise either isn’t paying attention or is one of the people who pay them.

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        6 months ago

        No true Scotsman fallacy. You can’t actually make the argument, which is why you realize you have to go straight to a logical fallacy.

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            6 months ago

            Neither. No true Scotsman (in this case someone not paying the police) would miss that they are a sanctioned gang. I guess I should also point out that it was coupled with an ad hominem as well, accusing them possibly not paying attention.

            Pick your logic fallacy, I guess. Either way, they’ve made no actual argument and just preemptively attacked anyone who disagrees with them.

            • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              But there was no attack. There was no argument. Unless I’m completely mistaken, the thread was just a discussion of police in our society and you jumped in calling someone out and attempted to dismantle an argument that was never even made.

              If we want to go with just pointing out fallacies for whatever reason, I guess I’ll go ahead and throw strawman out there?

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                6 months ago

                I wouldn’t just go tossing out fallacies like that. Those are unwarranted assumptions. Next thing you know, you are just going to assume people are racist. It’s a slippery slope.

              • EatATaco@lemm.ee
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                6 months ago

                You’re really trying to claim that they didn’t make the argument that the cops are just a “sanctioned gang”?

                Lol they explicitly made the point and then defended if by using to logical fallacies.

                Of course, it seems you know i’m right which is why you’ve moved away from accusing me of not knowing what the fallacy is.