• rab@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    I believe we’re already there. Collapse is slow and honestly boring

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      3 months ago

      Yeah, people seem to expect a large sudden catastrophic shift… but, day to day we’re all dying out here as corporate greed sucks us all dry.

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        3 months ago

        That really is the sad part, huh?

        On literally every front, of like 50, it’s those 200 rich guys driving each crisis into overdrive in the name of adding a number to their net worth.

        And cops. They just do what they do because they are shitty human beings.

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      3 months ago

      Romans didn’t suddenly wake up in ruins one day and decide to become medieval instead.

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        3 months ago

        I like the argument that the Roman empire didn’t collapse but rather transformed into the Catholic church.

  • FrostyTrichs@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    What society? All society? Western society? American society? Russian society? It’s too broad a question, but-

    The answer will always be greed over wealth and power imo. Greed drives basically all the evil in the world and pours down from top to bottom. We already see breakdowns in society when greed reaches levels that cause people to struggle to survive.

    The response is almost always violent, until the balance of power is more equal. There are several nations around the world that are closer to collapse than people would like to believe.

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      3 months ago

      Southwest has plenty of water for a while. Lots of rain, lots of snow on the mountains.

      The cities trucking in their water are unique. They built their cities incorrectly, or are very old. I truck water in, but it’s because drilling a well is a lot more expensive and the water isn’t great unless it’s treated.

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          Much of the water in the sw is from the ground and mountains.

          Water from the Colorado is used because it’s easier to access. It’s going to be the fire to go and the most observable.

          In the desert communities , if you live near a mountain range that gets snow then you’re likely sitting on top of a lot of water.

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    3 months ago

    Probably a combination of climate cascade effects and another pandemic.

    The massive captive factory chicken and pig populations are a ticking time bomb, but changes to ocean current and weather patterns have the possibility of being more like someone flicking s switch.

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      3 months ago

      Seriously on the bread: why is it so expensive, and why doesn’t it fit in my toaster? I used to only buy the cheapest store-brand “bread” but it is so misshapen and falls apart before it even gets out of the bar, not to mention the lack of any taste.

      Any recommendations for a good white bread? (White bread being the best kind for grilled cheese; my predominant factor in choosing bread.)

  • JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    All these people think they know, as if predictions about the future have ever been more accurate than random chance.

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    3 months ago

    10-20 years, climate change will cause massive drought which will cripple the food supply.

    Doesn’t have to be a complete or even large collapse of society, but it’ll definitely hit way way harder than what covid did. Mass starvation in every developing country, food hoarding, some governments pretending to care, some profiteering on limited supplies, the usual.

    A lot of the current economic and geopolitical problems are actually solvable even in a final stance scenario. But no one can literally form clouds to replace lost irrigation or reverse climate change in less than a year. Desalination, even on max funding, would not be nearly enough to replace the water that comes from rainfall, especially huge river systems like the Indus, Nile, etc.

    Water conflict

  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    It depends on the society. European culture has forever to go for example, while the main Asian and American cultures probably have about three more centuries. I’m going by history when I make those predictions.

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      But I mean that’s a good thing. Every culture gets replaced by a new culture at some point. We had the roman culture, the greek culture, ancient egypt, the inkas, babylonians… They all went away. Currently we have our current culture. I’m glad it replaced the middle ages at some point. And I’m sure we’re also not the pinnacle of cultures… Something else will follow, if humankind continues to exist.

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    • ~10 years. It will arrive sooner than people think. We are already in…

    • climate. …the unpredictable zone of the climate change. The situation is worse than people are thinking.

    On a less catastrophic note, millennials could be the last generation to die of natural death. The 2024 newborns will probably die of the consequences of climate change.

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    It will be another series of plagued like covid. Each new one will learn to mutate faster and faster until we can no longer keep up with vaccines to stop it. Time frame is probably a could hundred years.