• spujb@lemmy.cafe
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    9 months ago

    it’s always the same comments rehashing the same old complaint when the real reason they designed it that way was to make you, the reader, mad

    that’s right they hate you specifically

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        9 months ago

        So that when other people see that you’re using the mouse wirelessly, because apple cares about how others perceive your product that you bought, not you.

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          I mean, Apple users care more about how they’re perceived using an Apple product rather than the cost-to-quality ratio of the product itself. Why wouldn’t Apple cater to that? It’s like printing money, and Apple users are so fucking cult-ish they fixate on things like green text messages.

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            The best examples of that, is how apple made headphones that yellow, but only the part thats in your ear, so you see it, but nobody else does, and you get temped to buy new ones.

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      The gen 1 mouse had removable batteries connected to a door on the bottom.

      The gen 2 mouse went with a rechargable battery, but they didn’t want to retool the factories making the top shell, so they couldn’t put the charging port anywhere other than the bottom part they were redesigning.

      Just charge the mouse overnight when you’re not using it. Also the charge cable disables the sensor so you can’t fix this “design feature” by modifying the mouse. Why not buy the desktop trackpad if you really need an input device when your mouse is charging?

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        Why should I buy two devices to do the same job, where a single device from any other sane manufacturer would function 100% of the time? Especially after paying a premium for the branded device?

        Pay more to get problems others don’t have, then pay even more on top to solve those problems…

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          You don’t become a trillion dollar company by selling people things they need. The strategy is to induce demand.

          Apple designs products so that when broken it requires a repair that costs 50-75% the cost of the device if repaired by Apple. If you’re paying that much to fix it you might as well just buy a new one.

          The apple vision pro is glued together, the outer shell and internal lenses have highly scratchable plastic on the outside. Want to fix it, over a thousand. They can’t just remove some screws replace the broken part. This is a deliberate design decision.

          It’s not about making good products, it’s about money. If you decide buy a trackpad for when your mouse is charging, apple make bank.

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          Yup, I have a Logitech MX Master 3 at work and it works just fine while charging. Oh, and it has two real scroll wheels, a thumb button (great for switching workspaces), and is really comfortable to use. A magic mouse has none of those things.

          At home I have a Logitech Triathlon at home, which I actually like better. There’s no horizontal scroll wheel, but the vertical scroll can tick side to side to get the same effect. It’s smaller, uses AA batteries, is more convenient to switch devices (I have it connected to my Steam Deck and another laptop), and the thumb button is easier to press.

          I really don’t like the magic mouse. To be honest, I also don’t like my MacBook Pro, but I need it for work, so whatever. I guess I’m just not the target market.

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            Usability too. The hybrid touch/mouse combo hasn’t been implemented better elsewhere (as far as I’m aware) and I find touchpad functionality like that very good. I have to work on a windows laptop for work and I game on a windows machine, but my personal laptop was an $800 Mac and the touchpad and window management is leagues above my $1400 work Windows

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        9 months ago

        Charge the mouse over night 😂

        The magic mouse is just shit with crappy ergonomics and user-hostile design like most of their hardware. It’s just pretty to look at.

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          I don’t even think it’s pretty to look at, it’s honestly quite boring. Then again, I don’t like how any of Apple’s hardware looks, so I guess I’m not the target market.

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    You charge it like that for 15 minutes, and then you get a month of battery life. Odd design choice tho

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      Or get a normal mouse you can use while charging for 15 mins and then have a month of battery. Or charge for 2hrs while using and have six months of battery.

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        Or buy two of these mice, so you always have a charged one waiting. (This comment was sponsored by Apple)

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        Here’s the thing about that though. The one thing the Magic Mouse does really well, is smooth scrolling. Apple makes it so no other mouse can do that since they control the software. So despite all the other issues it has, if you want their buttery smooth scrolling you have to use the Magic Mouse. And Apple shills will refuse to go without it, thus Apple makes bank off their otherwise shitty mouse.

        The only solution to this is a sea change where people stop buying apple products purely out of brand loyalty, which will probably never happen because they do make enough genuinely good products to keep people from losing faith, like the M1/2/3 laptops.

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    Still better than the Mighty Mouse.

    And while we’re at it, the razer deathadder v2 x hyperspeed is hot garbage and disconnects so often in 2.4g mode, I just went back to a wired mouse.

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      I made the mistake of buying a Razer Kiyo Pro webcam. Never again will I buy anything from Razer. Every time it’s connected, it puts an installer on my hard drive unprompted and then tries to install its crapware. I’ve never seen a piece of hardware that puts an exe on your hard drive without user consent.

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      That’s why I like my G Pro. I usually run it wired but if I want to travel I can just unplug it and stick the receiver in my laptop.

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    I’ve been riding one pretty hard for my job for half a decade. It’s pretty nice actually, I like the 2-axis touch scrolling. I wish it had a middle click, it’s way too expensive, and last time I tried to get it working with Linux it was a fucking nightmare.

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      BetterTouchToolUI and set a middle click gesture. I consider that software mandatory for Max OS, and it’s ridiculous that the features aren’t built into the OS.

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    Yeah well that’s not the worst honestly… I have the exact model and for reasons I cannot explain the ergonomics are incomparable with me. And I’m a mac user for my music production activities so it’s not like I’m a hater - I really don’t care. But I’ll stick to only using the touchpad on my mac book pro.

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      Grip style. People grip their mice in different ways and the Magic Mouse really doesn’t work for palm grippers. For fingertip grippers it’s one of the most comfortable mice ever made; for everyone else it’s hot garbage.

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        I’m a palm gripper and was using a Mac at work when this came out. I begged them to order me a real mouse within a month

        The only thing I liked about it were the gestures but Ctrl+scroll zooming works fine

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      I’ll stick to only using the touchpad

      That’s a one-way ticket to carpal tunnel my friend. Just get a nice, non-apple mouse. That’s what I did and I couldn’t be happier. Video editor, so we largely work the same way.

      Plus with even a cheap mouse these days you can customize different buttons - great for your workflow.

      Trust me when I say this, wrist pain does not seem like a big deal until it starts happening. Then it affects literally everything you do. It took me months to get mine under control, it was awful. And now I have to constantly be taking preventative measures in a way I didn’t have to even just a few years ago. Admittedly this was largely due to using my phone too much, but I also relied too much on cheap mice and trackpads.

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    You laugh now, but let me see you find a better spot for a cable!

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    I’m assuming it can hold a charge long enough that you can just charge it while you’re sleeping, and this won’t interrupt your work. On the other hand, if they had placed the socket in the front, you could work while you charge.

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    I think it’s probably totally usable once it finishes charging and you unplug the cord.

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      Meh. Would make a lot more sense to have the cord plugged in a way that a user can use it while charging

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        It’s Apple so they probably have some kind of secret proprietary bullshit on it where it doesn’t work right if you use it while it’s charging.

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      IDK, I’ve used one and it really sucks. It’s awkward to hold and the finger gestures are awkward to perform.

      Just get a regular mouse or a big trackpad. I have an MX Master 3 at work and Triathlon M720 at home (I prefer the M720). I’m not a fan of Apple products generally, but the Logitech mice make it way more pleasant imo.

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        I pretty much only use Logitech mice. The few times I’ve used Apple stuff it felt like I was going to break it

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          I have a Microsoft Intellimouse Pro on my desktop, but other than that, Logitech seems to be pretty reliable. I did have bad luck with the g305 Lightning, so went for the Razer DeathAdder Mini for my wife.

          My work mice have been solid though.

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    Have been using that mouse for almost a decade and this literally never has been an issue.

    If you really somehow manage to drain the battery to zero you can just plug it in for 5 minutes and it will work for the rest of the day. Fully charged it lasts for months.

    Complaining about the design it is a purley manufactured issue by people that never used one.

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      So because of a dumb design decision that they could have easily avoided if they designed a good product, you lose 5 minutes of your time waiting on your peripheral to charge.

      You could just have bought a decent mouse and never had that issue, with no drawbacks in any other way, shape or form.

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        Ironically, the only time in my adult life when not being able to use the mouse on my computer for 5 minutes would’ve been a major disruption to me was when I had a Mac.

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        Good thing there is plenty of other mice available for people that can’t handle a simple charging routine.

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          You mean literally every single other wireless mouse that you can buy.

          I’ve also used this mouse for many years, and it is infuriating when it dies and I have to stop what I’m doing and just… wait.

          No other mouse requires that I adhere to a “charging routine.” With other mice, I can just leave my desk. I don’t have to make sure I plug my mouse in before I leave work, otherwise risking getting out of the habit and then having my work interrupted by a hilarious (I know it’s hilarious because my coworkers laugh at me when it happens) design flaw.

          I fixed the problem though. I had a wired mouse tucked away that I could use for a day rather than do the 2 minute charging shuffle when my magic mouse died.

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      Even if we put the charging issue aside for a minute (it’s still stupid) the mouse flipped upside down (and the mere fact that you are constantly reminded of it) looks objectively much worse than if there were a charging port visible on the upper side.