• GeorgeZBush [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      9 months ago

      It’s offensively lazy, and that’s sort of the point. It’s like Sartre said about anti-semites

      Never believe that [ZIONISTS] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The [ZIONISTS] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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        It rings of the old Karl Rove “attack them in their strengths” strategy. When you can saturate media with these kinds of statements, its depressingly effective. Hard to argue when there is this deafening chorus line echoing the sentiment.

        British politics employs similar tactics. Doesn’t matter if what folks are saying is dumb as dishwater. So long as that’s the only thing anyone ever hears, its the only thing they believe.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Nah. It’s cheap information attacks. The attack takes up very little compute time. Refuting it takes a lot more. This is why we have PIGPOOPBALLS. When the refutation isn’t worth the time you can drop the old piggerino to shut them up and let everyone else know it’s not worth fighting it out.

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          True. We have finite time and they have infinite resources, essentially.

          They can also keep repeating multiple propaganda failures until they hit one that sticks.

          Again, lots of money.

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    Israel took Palestinian land, attempted to commit genocide against Palestinian people, and then complained when Palestinians resisted this violence with violent acts of their own. Israel is gazalighting.

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      I wish we’d just say gas-lighting instead since this just repackages that concept.

      But otherwise, yeah, agreed.

      Israel is the one doing this, not Palestine.

  • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    bob kidnapped a baby and then complained when his entire family was killed by a bomb while they were seeking shelter at a hospital because the fresh water supply had been cut off. bob is gazalighting.

    fuck it i’m willing to roll with the premise that bob is kidnapping a literal baby. the response to that isn’t collective punishment, besieging a civilian population, and indiscriminately bombing everything that moves and most of the things that don’t, including the baby.

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      “Bob kidnapped a baby so we deliberately slaughtered thousands and thousands of literal children. It didn’t have anything to do with the baby but the baby was a good excuse. We also dropped a bomb on the baby because dead martyrs are more valuable politically than live hostages we must negotiate for”.