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  • I get how you can make it but “not playing the game” isn’t something that you or I may do.

    I agree. I don’t think any of us have an honest choice in the matter because there’s a large level of coercion behind social expectations. I should have used a different word than “choose,” but I actually think your insight makes my reading stronger.

    Even if he did “choose” not to play, the movie doesn’t present a positive outcome for doing this.

    Also, I love Tolkien, but his writing is full of analogies lol.


  • It’s a critique of masculinity, and it uses the knightly code as a way to explore the way that men enforce that code.

    Gawain enters the fight against the green knight in order to build his name and get out from under the shadow of his father. Logically, he should strike the green knight non-fatally so that will be returned to him, but he knows that if he does that, the other knights will call him a coward. So he is pressured into entering this arrangement that he knows will kill him.

    He’s then led around by a few female characters as represented by his mother’s green belt. He could accept the help of the women which will ensure he lives, but this would feminize him-- implying he cannot fulfill the role of his father.

    The ending is critical because it calls into question what exactly honor is in this context. Yeah, he chooses not to live a life without “honor,” but he is not rewarded for it. He gets beheaded anyway because he was damned the moment he wanted to play the game.

    In this case, I find it very important that the king outright told Gawain that it was all a game. He was pressured into playing it and following the rules. The movie is telling us that strict adherence to masculinity and patriarchy is self destructive.








  • If we can’t talk about these things with nuance then that’s the real problem. We can bring some nuance to this and realize that what happened this is wrong and we can enact policy to change that.

    No, I think the real problem has very little to do with our discourse. I think the real problem is that there are indigenous people to this day being stamped out and suffering under colonialism and imperialism to this day, and that the dominant western ideology is to respond “well, this is human nature, and you would have done the same to me.”

    If you want to talk about nuance, your view is not nuanced. Your ideas hinge on “human nature” (a claim) and ignore the differences in the way civilizations have interacted over time. It doesn’t have anything to do with “white man bad” or “red man benevolent.” It has everything to do with the system of natural and social incentives that cultures have. The economic systems that emerged in Europe created the groundwork for the colonization of the world. Yeah, it COULD have emerged elsewhere, but it didn’t, and these crimes fall squarely on the colonizers, not the colonized for commiting an imaginary crime. This worldwide colonization had a particular character that is not the same as what happened before it.

    you had to choose between your family, starving to death or killing the “others”.

    Another hypothetical situation stacked in favor of justifying the “human nature” argument. Colonization is not a matter of life and death. People won’t die if they don’t colonize other people. There are plenty of people throughout history who didn’t just go along with their nations crimes and attempted to stop it.

    But let’s get to the heart of the matter. One must either imagine that all of the killing, murders, and genocides throughout history were either a product of a historical moment or the nature of humanity. If one believes that this is all human nature, I can’t imagine that they’d be fit to solve the ongoing genocides today because it’s all “survival of the fittest”. By that logic, we’re just figuring out who deserves to live.

    And that’s the real problem. These things are ongoing and regardless of how you interpret the past or whether “they would have done the same”, we cannot change the past and there are things we can do now for colonized people.

    Btw, knock it off with “I’m gonna get downvoted for this” and “you’re just farming upvotes”. We’re on a 2 day old communist Lemmy post with like 4 upvotes. Nobody is paying attention to this except us.

    Edit: god dammit I spent so much time writing this and by the time I got reply, they got banned lmao


  • There’s really worlds of difference between these things. Of course, humans fight and kill each other, but what colonists did is far different than what indigenous people did to one another.

    The settlers were and are devoted to the eradication of a people. Much of their culture, language, and achievements were outright destroyed in the name of God and racial superiority. This is not something that you can accuse indigenous people of. Scientific racism is an invention of Europe. Capitalism, too, emerged out of the historical context of Europe which requires colonists to support. These are not universal human traits.

    Settlers took the names and languages and children and tried to “assimilate” them (read: erase). To this day, these people are being strangled out of existence. There are people here on Lemmy who live on reservations and discuss the struggle to this day.

    I’m responding to you in good faith here, but to be honest, I don’t think there’s any other way to read this than justification for genocide because “they would have done the same.” That’s not a grounded claim. You should reflect on why your knee jerk reaction is to respond this way and consider if you’d rather stand with the colonizers or the colonized.



  • Most of the lore is written about the Horus Heresy. From the point of view of humanity, it’s the worse thing to happen to the imperium, as it has not and will never recover from it.

    There’s another human civilization called the interex that was basically the anti-imperium in that they were pluralist, secular, and sought peace within the galaxy. The imperium destroyed them, so it pretty much crushed any alternative system or hope in the universe, so that was pretty bad.

    As far as actual body counts and gorey details? I don’t know, the eldaar, dark eldaar, old ones, and necrons are all pretty fucked up.