• [email protected]@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    Beehaw has their own vibe going on and that’s fine too. I wouldn’t expect them to refederate with us anymore than with .world. Don’t hate them for it.

    I do believe we run tighter moderation after expanding the team, so I think refederation could be possible with infosec.pub if we reached out.

    There’s somewhat of a flaw in the report system when a local user commits abuse on a remote community and as such, a matrix back-channel is kind of a necessity for now. I think as long as we make sure to have that it should be possible to make this work.

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    11 months ago

    I don’t expect Beehaw to refederate anytime soon. As of last month they were still considering moving to another platform: https://beehaw.org/post/9558079

    As for infosec.pub, I’ll chat with the other admins about inviting them to refederate. My understanding is that they were getting a lot of reports related to our instance and decided to pull the plug on us.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t really know honestly. My instance is still federated with them, and I don’t see much of them. I do see a few users from there, but I rarely see their posts in all. They’re mostly just a little isolated community off to the side that does their own thing, which I think is what they want

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        11 months ago

        If you enjoy tame, chill conversations and memes and little else then yes. Good is very subjective. I personally do not like beehaw, it’s a bit bland for me. The community was set up to be(e) a walled garden and it’s about as good as a federated walled garden can be.

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    11 months ago

    With the way the Beehaw admins were acting back when they defederated, I wouldn’t expect Beehaw to ever refederate.

    They were happy and quick to defederate and seemed proud of it.

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    11 months ago

    I posted this comment 14 days ago,

    It seems easier to register in infosec.pub than on sh.itjust.works, I just did it and there’s not even a captcha. It might have more to do with the server problems and what it may be doing to other instances. Or it might just be that time of the year again,

    Happened three months ago: https://infosec.pub/post/2137743

    Happened five months ago: https://infosec.pub/post/600368

    There’s a lot of vague accusations, but it’s hard finding evidence, perhaps because of the nature of it.

    I’m curious why it’s not showing up with the rest of the comments (or my reply to it) but there isn’t a modlog removal.

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            11 months ago

            From my view the original comment has been replaced with “deleted by creator”. If a user deletes a comment in Lemmy 0.18.5 then it and all its child comments are removed from public view. Though @[email protected] will still see their own comment in the comment history section of their user profile. I think that this behavior will change when we upgrade to 0.19x, and non-admin users will see “deleted by creator” as well.

            There appears to be something else going on, too. If you view the post from lemmy.ca or literature.cafe (both of which are on Lemmy 0.19.1) the original comment is still there. It’s like those instances never got the memo that the comment was deleted. I can only assume this is related to the ongoing federation issues in Lemmy 0.19.x?

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              The only comment I deleted was the one hanging off of https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 (which was basically me pointing out the same thing I later replied in this thread about, the comment not showing up). Which makes sense, because it doesn’t show up.

              If I had deleted https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 itself, you should not be able to see it. But you can, and anyone can. What they can’t do is see it from the thread discussion itself.

              And no, the comment I actually did delete does not show in my history … because I deleted it.


              kersploosh dug around and found that I had responded to a top level comment and not to the thread directly, and this comment was removed but also prevented the comments hanging from it from displaying, so it’s all cleared up now.

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                This exact thing happened to me at Lemmy world and I brought it up in their main support. I mentioned that they weren’t acting straight forward and then the admins started trolling me. There’s something in the software that lets you do this, at least in Lemmy world, or they’ve figured out how. I’m now losing faith in lemmy which seems to be their intent. I like the idea of it, but this messing with the software to troll or silence people isn’t great.

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                  That’s not the same thing, kerploosh dug around and found that I had responded to a top level comment and not to the thread directly, and this comment was removed but also prevented the comments hanging from it from displaying. I’ll update the comment.

                  But I know what you mean. The modlog hardly matters if the interface is so non-intuitive that you can’t easily tell what has happened. What you are describing could be due to federation synchronization issues, I’ve been noticing a lot of those lately. Don’t get me wrong, there’s definitely at least one top lemmy.world admin who is still in the team and is an asshole who will happily make shit up while sweeping problems they created under the rug, but lemmy is also buggy enough on its own, it seems.

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          11 months ago

          (See admin reply) Any chance you deleted the comment?

          Maybe while drunk, or maybe your kid had ahold of your computer, or maybe while your kid was drunk… 🙃

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            The only comment I deleted was the one hanging off of https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 (which was basically me pointing out the same thing I later replied in this thread about, the comment not showing up). Which makes sense, because it doesn’t show up.

            If I had deleted https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 itself, you should not be able to see it. But you can, and anyone can. What they can’t do is see it from the thread discussion itself.

            And no, the comment I actually did delete does not show in my history … because I deleted it.