America is genocidal, sure, but so is every single other society in the history of civilization. America is exceptional because of the technology and the art it contributed to genocide, which is the goal of every civiliztion, remember. Pointing out the difference in scale of US atrocities just prevents us working together for greater justice.

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  • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    This must be the lemmy user occamzrazer again. That bozo was on here saying the EXACT same shit to me about “art and technology” when defending Amerikkka and the founding fathers

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      Sounds like it could be the same person, yeah. And if not, they’re infected with brainworms from the same lineage.

      All of the positive things that happened within the totalitarian racist regime of the US not only could have happened jus3t as easily elsewhere, these things would have probably happened sooner and certainly in ways that benefited more people. Take insulin as an example, the doctor who discovered it refused to patent it in his name so as not to deny access of it to people who weren’t rich enough. He had to do that in spite of how medicine for profit worked/works in the shithole US. And look at it now! An ongoing struggle for people to be able to afford it and not, you know, FUCkING DIE, so they have to pay thousands of dollars a month, totally unnecessarily.

      Capitalism in general, with the US being the shining example of it, is and always has been the enemy of art, culture, and medicine. It has been and will continue to be the enemy of the people, those who just want to live a fulfilling life and contribute to the community and culture they grew from and are a part of.

      How many brilliant people lived and died in poverty because capitalism can only function with a large and severely exploited underclass? How many of those people would have gone on to achieve great things had they only had their basic needs like food and shelter met? All of those advancements (and the ones that really were advancements like in medicine and art, not bazinga bullshit that only helps the most wealthy) happened despite the imperialist, capitalist, great Satan that is the U.S., not because of it. How much further along, technologically, would we be were we not stifled by the capitalist system that suppresses the potential of the masses? What advancements in medicine would we have now, were it not for the absurd need to turn a profit instead of helping people? Cuba alone has shown that if the world had followed its lead in prioritizing genuine medical research regardless of profit, we could well have fucking cured cancer by now!

      Anyone who attributes technological, artist, medicinal, etc achievements and advancements made under capitalism to capitalism (outside of maybe rapid industrialization) is full of shit and is in desperate need of reeducation. Capitalism is only a hindrance to human achievement, and we can only realize the full extent of human potential once capitalism is thrown into the garbage heap of failed modes of production where it belongs. Where it no longer holds us back and holds us down, where it is no longer able to thwart the deep, empathetic social aspect of our species from flourishing, no longer able at every turn to suffocate the true human ingenuity that emerges from us in aggregate as social, collaborative, empathetic creatures.

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        outside of maybe rapid industrialization

        They don’t even have that. No one has beat socialism in terms of rapid industrialization.