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    I’ve been told that the stuff isn’t actually plastic, but rather clear cellulose, and can in a pinch be used as a wrap to roll a joint. Yes clear cellulose papers do exist, but you think I’d actually trust smoking cheese wrapping stuff? Hell no!

    Regardless, after hearing that years ago, I did try burning a cheese wrap after that, and much to my surprise the wrap didn’t melt like plastic, it burned like paper.

    I just got done trying it again, with a different brand of cheese, and yeah this one burned and melted like plastic. ☹️

    I guess different cheese makers use different wrapping material, but either way, if someone suggests rolling a joint in cheese wrap, just say NO!

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        LMFAO! I hear ya there!

        Sorry to say that I don’t remember what brand of cheese it was the first time I tried that years ago, but I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value.

        I never did try rolling or smoking a joint with either test though. Being naturally skeptical about the random advice, I only tested just burning the wrap by itself. Weed costs too much to waste on experiments ya know haha!

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        I can help you on that.

        The brand is Trip. It works alright (both for rolling and smoking), but there are better paper (e.g. Raw).

        I’d consider it as mostly gimmick. Again, not a bad product overall, tho.

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      I have clear rolling papers and they’re a cool gimmick but not at all practical for everyday use. Harder to roll and doesn’t stick to itself as well.

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        That just might depend on the brand and what sort of glue they used, if any. I dunno, the handful of times I smoked clear doobies with my friends, they held together just fine. 🤷‍♂️

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      I wonder if there’s any correlation with cheese wrapper joints and strains named cheese.

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        I dunno how things are today, but not too many years ago if you searched Google Images for blue cheese, some of the images it would bring up would actually be nuggets of weed haha!

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      I’ve been told that the stuff isn’t actually plastic,

      Some even claim this stuff is cheese

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    I got a milkshake a while back, in a plastic container, with a plastic lid, for some reason it also came with a plastic spoon, and a paper straw, since they are cutting down on plastics…

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    I mean there was some joke libertarian candidate that literally ran under the slogan “Make America Grate Again” claiming that he would outlaw sliced and shredded cheeses to make America embrace its graters and its grating roots.

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      How is clamping down on the freedom companies have to make plastic cheese, and the freedom for people to buy it… Libertarian?

      Isn’t that pretty authoritarian?

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      I bought a rotary grater about two years ago thanks to a post on Reddit and I rarely ever buy sliced cheese anymore, if I do it’s the kind that comes in one pack with parchment paper in between the slices.

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        Looking at the thumbnail, I assumed this was going to be a joke about the cheese being essentially plastic

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        Was just about to say this. A decent amount of brands do use paper instead of plastic to separate individual slices, but I’ve only seen it with real cheese. Never with American cheese

        Also before anyone says something, no, American cheese is not real cheese. In fact, it contains less than 50% cheese. It is officially considered a “pasteurized processed American cheese food”.

        Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

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          Ingredients for Kraft American cheese slices:

          CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), NATAMYCIN (A NATURAL MOLD INHIBITOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).

          It’s not health food, but if it’s less than 50% cheese it’s because of the milk/milk products added into it to make it meltier. The only thing making up more than 2% of it that isn’t cheese or a milk product is sodium and calcium phosphate. Different cheeses for different jobs.

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          Not sure if parchment paper would work for this particular form of fake cheese because its literally a liquid that they pour into the plastic. It solidifies in the fridge.

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          Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

          But it’s the best option for all of these and thus it will always be in my fridge. Except the spaghetti… That’s weird but I’m curious.

          And before y’all get all shitty, I’m not talking about your whatever melts. That’s not a grilled cheese. A grilled cheese has exactly 3 ingredients: bread, butter, cheese. That’s it. And that cheese is best when it’s Kraft singles. Fight me.

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            A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire subreddit consist of “melts”. Almost every “grilled cheese” sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. The fact that this subreddit is called “grilledcheese” is nothing short of utter blasphemy. Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It’s called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don’t know what the hell you’d call that but it’s not a grilled cheese. I would be more than willing to wager I’ve eaten more grilled cheeses in my 21 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. But if you want to add some pulled pork and take a picture of it, make your own subreddit entitled “melts” because that is not a fucking grilled cheese. I’m not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being. Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this account for the sole purpose of posting this. I’ve seen post after post of peoples “grilled cheeses” all over reddit and it’s been driving me insane. The moment i saw this subreddit this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own subreddit just because I know this one exists now. You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt.

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            100% agree

            On the spaghet topic, trust me, you will be glad you tried it. I’ve never done it with freshly made spaghetti, cause that’s amazing on its own, but if you’ve got leftovers just put it in a bowl, tear one or two slices into strips and put them on top, nuke it for a minute or so, mix it all up, eat, and cum

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            Nah, a good deli-style American will be better than Kraft Singles. Try Kraft Deli Deluxe (or any other brand).

            It’s lower milk content so it’s more solid, not individually wrapped but is individually sliced. It’s what restaurants like Culver’s use.

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              I’ll have to try it sometime

              Though unless the flavor profile is considerably different (and better), I’d still personally say that cheddar is the ultimate cheese

              Especially sharp cheddar. I love eating slices of it with honey 😋

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          Hamburgers just arent the same without that nasty over processed American “cheese” only place I can find it around me in Australia is at Costco so I have to buy like 2.1Kg of it at a time.

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            I get what you’re saying, but I still prefer cheddar or maybe Swiss depending on the toppings. Tastes more “real”

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          I would go so far as to argue it’s only good on grilled cheeses. Maybe the occasional American style cheeseburger. Other than that Cheddar is superior.

          And honestly I prefer swiss for my burgers I just never have it on hand.

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          Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

          You have my sword for this.

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          I’m really intriged with the spaghetti part… Do you reckon it would still work on just cooked pasta? I don’t have a microwave.

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          It’s my favourite for burgers. It lasts way longer without going bad (I find real cheese slices will go moldy before I can use them all), tastes better to me, and is meltier. The meltiness is really nice!

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      Personally, I like cheese but I always found plastic sliced cheese just fucking gross. Melted cheese in plastic blech

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        Try a good deli-style American. So much better than Kraft Singles. Much lower milk content, so it’s more solid. Not individually wrapped, but individually sliced. Higher cheddar and Colby content, so its flavor is better. Still melts beautifully. Best burger cheese out there, IMO.

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          How could it be lower milk content? Cheese is 99.9% milk by definition, especially actual cheese (not sure what’s in this Kraft stuff). The only additive is supposed to be the starter culture.

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            American cheese is processed. Depending on the amount of milk added during that processing, you get a product with a more or less firm consistency.

            Singles are liquid when they’re poured into the wrap, and then they solidify. In this they end up being far less like traditional cheese.

            Check out the Wikipedia page for more detail.

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      I’m never exposed my child to this stuff, she’s been raised with mild cheddar slices or better, I guess they use it in fast food places though.

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      Kraft does sell non-singles sliced american cheese. Nothing between the slices and it doesn’t stick together. Also doesn’t have that plasticy taste.

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    That’s because all you absolute fucking babies are still crying they took your plastic straw away.

    The reason we don’t have sensible climate conversations leading to real action is because the SLIGHTEST thing anyone suggests and you fucking scream your toddler heads off for years!

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      Many modern humans are a bunch of entitled little shits and it applies across the political spectrum.

      I strongly believe every person needs to experience serious adversity at some point - homelessness, joblessness, food insecurity, chronic health issues, or chronic pain. I have had most of the above (and still have some, yay chronic health issues) and that made me a better person by giving me perspective. I don’t give a shit about losing plastic straws; on the contrary, I welcome their loss, they’re stupid and polluting. I can walk and I have a warm place to sleep at night, losses like plastic straws seem as trivial as they truly are.

      All the best people I know went through some shit or are empathetic enough to understand what it’s like. The worst people I know either were protected from adversity, lack the empathy to learn from others, or went through an adverse situation but didn’t have the tools to properly work through it so it made them worse.

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        Uh… Yeah… I’ve experienced homelessness throughout my teenage years and… Uh… It really makes the things “normal” people complain about or stress over seem small and insignificant.

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          Same here and seriously. It’s not that I disagree that whatever is bothering them is bothersome, it’s usually just something I wouldn’t notice.

          Like people cutting me off or speeding on the freeway. I really couldn’t care less as long as they’re not putting me directly in danger. I really just don’t notice but it drives my wife nuts. I’m just happy I’m only driving my car, not living in it.

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      Ask me how I know we’re not gonna reach our climate change reduction goals.

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      For folks worried about plastic straws and bags and simple little shit, remind them what Lego is made of and how much of that is out there with the rest of the trash…

      Don’t get me wrong, I love Lego, but still in the long run it’s just more of the plastic pollution problem. Of course this isn’t the only place they end up, but check this…

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=3FxfXVuHRjM

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          Just because it isn’t meant to be thrown out, doesn’t mean squat when people and families get evicted or homes demolished from disasters or whatever. We don’t live in an ideal world, shit happens, and when it does, your stuff gets thrown in the dumpsters and landfills, if not end up elsewhere.

          Plastic is plastic. Humans lived for ages without the stuff, so plastic is not a necessity of life. Eventually it’s all gonna become pollution…

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              I’ve almost never purchased electronics, I almost exclusively salvage flood damaged electronics and otherwise damaged electronics from the side of the road or dumpsters. Fuck off, I actually do my part. Do you?

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            Yeah I do agree people are not willing to have these conversations, we live incredibly wasteful lives for no reason at all - yeah Lego is a fun toy but we don’t need it to last for ten thousand years, like let’s keep that stuff for special things and if we’re making models then keep some logs asside, cut them into the size pieces you want and use a knife or chissel to shape them.

            Or depending on your local geology dig a hole, wash out the clay by swapping between buckets then let it dry until it’s the desired consistency and shape it into what you want to make - when you’re done you can just crumble it up and use it again, or if you really love it then you can fire it and keep it as long as you like, when you smash it up then it’ll all go back to soil.

            But no people need to buy Disney licences Lego kits which they’ll probably keep in the box anyway because they don’t even want to play with them that just want to have them for a while then leave them in the soil for the next few millennia.

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      Dang, sorry for not being 100% on board with something that’ll make things worse for some disabled people while having an immeasurable impact on the climate

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    Remember when fruit stickers used to be paper and biodegradable? Now they’re all fucking plastic because they need their logo to be shinier I guess.

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      I have come full circle. I loved processed American cheese food (pacf) when I was a kid because I was a kid. Then I got into fancy sliced cheeses like cheddar and Gouda. But they don’t melt as nicely! So now back to pacf for burgers and melts because it is the best ingredient for that job.

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        The name brand in the US is Kraft Singles, but at least here that type of orange cheese is just referred to as American regardless of brand

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        I’ve never heard of Chester cheese. There’s Cheshire cheese, but that’s quite crumbly and wouldn’t hold up to being packaged like this. You might also be thinking of cheddar. A genuine cheddar would be too brittle, but in modern marketing, cheddar is often shorthand for any homogenous, yellow cheese. So this stuff might be described as cheddar on the packet.

        I think this stuff is more of a cheese-flavoured sauce, that they inject into the bags and leave to set. It’s more an invention of the convenience food industry, than any culinary tradition.

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      Things can be related to more than one thing at a time. Banning single use plastics will be cheaper for corporations that offer them for free but it’s also better for the environment if they do not exist for decades or centuries after they’ve been used.

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    Two things: these are basically plastic anyways.

    Also, the plastic straw thing was a PR move. Corporations don’t give any shits unless it will make money or lose them money.

    I’m sure there was a nontrivial number of customers who either boycotted or threatened to boycott companies that didn’t switch. When their bottom line gets threatened like that, they take action to prevent revenue loss.

    Nothing more. There’s way more problems with everything than plastic straws. My favorite PR move is how they convinced everyone that their cars are causing the majority of CO2 emissions from transit… Between that and airplanes, everyone is up in arms about the electrification of everything… Yet, the most major transport offenders are freight, and they have no plans or intention of changing their ways. I heard somewhere that if you were to have zero carbon emissions for your entire life, you would save the approximate amount that freight liners emit in a year, at most. I think a year is too long. I forget the exact figure.

    They emit more CO2 than all the cars, and all the planes and everything else you could point to… Yet, I have yet to hear anyone tell me about it, either personally, or on the news or anything. Everyone seems oblivious to the facts. They latch on to these “issues” like straws and personal vehicle CO2 emissions which are trivial…

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      People saw that video of the sea turtle with the straw in its nose and, rightfully, got mad. If only they also got mad about microplastics being inside everyone and everything.

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        Public outrage from one, probably staged, viral video.

        There’s a disturbing number of viral videos that are downright animal abuse against turtles just for views.

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      Good American cheese is the really cheap shit.

      The whole point of American cheese is that it’s barely cheese and more like a delicious coagulated milk-stuff sheet.

      Gourmet American Cheese is some 1%-er bullshit.

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        The good American cheese is not in fact “1%-er bullshit”. Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff, which comes pre-stacked in a large block. It is certainly much better.

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            Its been years since I’ve been to McDonald’s, but you mean to tell me they stopped charging an extra dollar for ‘cheese’?

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            I find this hard to believe. They even stopped serving the actual heinz ketchup.

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          The fact that you called McDonalds a “restaurant” has me cracking up, while yes, it technically is, no one goes there to have a nice sit down meal with the family.

          Cheddar is so much better than American.

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          Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff,

          McDonald’s

          the better stuff

          L-O-L

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        Idk what that other guy is on but our grocery deli has American cheese they slice themselves, it’s not much more expensive than craft

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          Kraft American Pre-sliced bulk packs are the pinnacle of American Cheese. It’s actually diminishing returns anywhere after that.

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      Thank you for fighting the good fight. Kraft Singles make people not want to try deli-style American. It makes me sad.

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        Kraft has “Deluxe American” cheese slices that aren’t individually wrapped and have a better flavor and texture.

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          I have some in my fridge right now, actually, as it’s the most consistently stocked deli-style brand at my local market. I’m a fan!

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      Kind of depends. Vermont cheddar cheese is fantastic and very nice but if you looking for a good smash burger or juicy Lucy burger you have to use that crappy Kraft singles stuff for the proper melt. Sure you can get Kraft in a block of sliced cheese but I am rarely cooking for like 50-100 people, which these blocks come out of.

      Kraft cornered the market for a stable cheese in the early 1900’s here in America that melts really nicely and has a long shelf life with Velveeta.

      A fun short little history and company story is by the Company Man on YouTube https://youtu.be/Hp0uhC15RtI?si=JAPmRQztP7ee5eSU

      But even Guga Foods on YouTube highly recommends using the crappy cheese over the fancy stuff

      • I think by Good American cheese they meant something more like this:

        https://www.landolakes.com/products/cheese/deli-american/

        It is very much a different thing than Kraft Singles, you can get however much or little of it (or various competitors) you want anyplace that has deli meats, and the per-pound cost is not that much more, last I checked.

        Although some kinds of cheddar might be made in the US, I don’t think Vermont Cheddar is what anyone usually has in mind when they say “Deli American Cheese.”

        I’ve had no problem getting a good melt on burgers with “good” American, FWIW.

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        Most block cheeses with a good fat and moisture content will melt well when shredded off the block right before you intend to use it. The pre-shredded or pre-sliced stuff has additives like starch in and on it to stop it from sticking together in the package and melting during transit, which prevents a good melt. Get yourself a cheap rotary shredder from Amazon (they’re like $20, mine never stays clean because I use it like every other day) and see for yourself.

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    Fake Plastic Cheese, good radiohead song.

    I admit growing up pretty poor, these were considered a treat lol.

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        I don’t know what you’re talking about. The lyrics seem pretty clear about the song being about cheese.

        Her green plastic ez-cheese can

        For her fake Chinese cooking pan

        In the fake cheesy earth

        That she ate from a spray cheese can

        In a town full of muenster plans

        To get rid of American

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        She lives with a queso hand

        A sliced American hand

        That just crumbles and molds

        He used to get pepper jack

        For girls who want that jack

        But American always wins

        And it wears him out

        It wears him out

        It wears him out

        It wears

        She looks like the fake cheese

        She tastes like the fake cheese

        My fake plastic cheese

        But I can’t help the feeling

        I could chew through the sealing

        If I just turn and taste

        And it wears me out

        It wears me out

        It wears me out

        It wears me out

        And if it could be cheese you wanted

        If it could be cheese you wanted

        All the cheese

        All the cheese

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    Considered the following:

    The slices of cheese are analogous to each of our individual lives: it’s boring, manufactured, and there is a wrap of plastic which define us as individuals but keeps separate from one another. The only good aspect of American cheese is that it is designed for melting, so in essence, by removing the plastic barrier that keeps us separated, we, like the humble slices of American cheese, can melt and become part of something greater than our individual selves (like a burger or a grilled cheese).

    Or as Karl Marx once said: Life is plastic, it’s fantastic.

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    Why the fuck didn’t Twizzlers capitalise on the non-plastic straw market?!

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        I dunno man, the whole point of using a Twizzler as a straw is that you eat it after…

        Imagine if, instead of showing bling replacement teeth, rappers posed for photos with Twizzlers in their mouths. Craig Charles surely would have looked different.

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          Well, you do make a good point. Plus, there’s that much less evidence left behind. Snort on homie, you’re clearly more experienced than me… 👍

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            I just fucking love liquorice. Whether or not it tastes like bank notes makes no difference.

            It’s when you take the morning rush to the office and smell a pang of bank notes that I start asking questions. That’s not cologne, yet some people wear it as such.

            Craig Charles does crack though, fair warning if you ever end up in a green room with him.

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        Absolutely.

        Although I imagine some sort of German engineered version, where the hole isn’t all that big but somehow maintains structural integrity yet significant flow rate.

        The life we could’ve had if McDonalds didn’t dictate things.

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          where the hole isn’t all that big but somehow maintains structural integrity yet significant flow rate

          Sorry, fluid mechanics doesn’t work that way.

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            I dunno man, I have a few German vapes protected by patents that seem to work alright. Their first patent expired a few years ago, however patents for their portable vapes won’t expire until 2035, but there’s surely some scope to make something transformative before then.

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              I’m not familiar enough with vapes (German or otherwise) to understand how they’re related to using Twizzlers as straws.

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                Because the vape I’m talking about has a trick heatsink inside that it uses to heat air up to the desired temperature, without massively restricting airflow.

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        I used to drink root beer out of the licorice red vines, those held up quite well. Though, the lart was around seven years ago. I haven’t seen blaok red vines in ages around these parts.

        Have no idea if the red ones would have held up. Never liked those too much, heh, and other than root beer, birch beer, I’d drink coffee instead.

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      Why can’t they make the straw out of the same thing that the inside of the cup is made out of? My cup isn’t disintegrating in seven minutes due to exposure to liquid.

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    I really want American cheese that is not wrapped in plastic. Kraft makes it but it costs more than double the plastic wrapped stuff. I’ve paid that price when times were plenty but they are no more.

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      Buy a cheese slicer and thank me later. Another pro tip buy cheese from Amish people if you can, I love like 30 minutes away from an Amish store & their cheese is on another level.

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        Random tip, if you have a block of cheese but no slicer, you can wrap it once with dental floss where you wanna cut and pull the ends together to cut through the cheese. It can be just a tad awkward though, just basically try to make sure the floss ends stay lined up on the plane of the cut. I dunno, just a quick hack anyways.

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            LOL, I hear ya, but there’s also flavorless dental floss. Whatever, quick hack of a half-ass LPT.

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            Yes, broke the handle on one the other week trying to cut through one. Cheese has a very high friction when trying to cut with a knife. That’s why they make cheese cutters.

            Dental floss works better than breaking kitchen knife handles…

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              I guess it depends on how big the block is to begin with.

              I’m not buying multiple kilograms of cheese in one setting.

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      Can’t say I even find the ones individually wrapped appealing, cheaper or not. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not even real cheese.

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        Markedly. The stuff wrapped in plastic is like play dough in comparison to getting it in a block or sliced from the deli counter.

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          No joke, I worked in a deli and my friend would ball up a slice of american cheese and use it as a bouncy ball. That shit is wild.

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        For the record, good American cheese does exist. It’s just a blend of cheddar and Colby with some annatto for seasoning, instead of the extruded “cheese product” stuff in plastic wrappers.

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        Oh yes, sorry.

        “”“”““cheese””“”“” like this always tastes gross.

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          The reason single slice cheese is great for grilled cheese is due to the emulsifiers in it. Even if you use other cheese you want to throw a slice of that in there to bind it all together.

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            Or some other melting cheese like jack. For sure though American cheese or Velveeta are fantastic melting cheeses for a good cheese blend.

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        No thanks. I prefer actual cheese on my sandwich. Not this salt paste. flings the frisbee cheese back at you take this abomination away.