• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      I get it, but speaking as someone who used to design kitchen layouts for a living: Don’t put your sink in the corner. Just don’t.

      Also, this has one major “feature” above and beyond the usual diagonal sink in a corner cabinet, in that you can swivel the faucet into the middle position and dispense water directly onto your floor. Genius!

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        swivel the faucet into the middle position and dispense water directly onto your floor

        Or directly into a bucket.

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          How often I’m filling buckets vs. how often I’d accidentally spill water on the floor.

          Would be a bad idea for me

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            I’m pretty sure you’d get used to it after the first few times it happens. We accommodate to the limitations of many technologies on a nearly constant basis, often without consciously making those adjustments.

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              I’m pretty sure you’d get used to it after the first few times it happens

              You underestimated my ability to not learn from mistakes.

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        If you have a faucet can swivel, you could probably always put it somewhere to spill directly on the countertop. Still ugly design, though.

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        The floor thing is awesome. You can easily fill a big barrel without a hose.

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          Just get a faucet with a hose. Helps with cleaning/rinsing dishes, too, especially if it has a good high pressure setting.

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            I was joking… Although maybe some people took it seriously.

            I mean I guess in case of emergency as in I do not want to go to the store for a hose just for this one time thing…

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        Doesn’t the faucet travel over the corners so it wouldn’t spill on the floor (much anyways) without pulling the faucet out?

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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          No. Look at it in the picture. The gooseneck in it comes forward quite long enough to at the very least hit the countertop in the middle of the corner, and most of that water will either spill onto the floor if it doesn’t hit it directly.

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            The same gooseneck can spray outside the confines of the sinks away from the bench edge as well. There’s around 180° of movement the tap can make behind the sinks that would cause water to not fall into the sink as well. There are many wrong ways to use taps in regular sinks as well; I think spilling water between the sinks would be a self-correcting issue after the first few times it happens.

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        My ex has the regular sink diagonally in the corner- and she’s too short. It has to be farther back from the edge of the counter to miss the corner. However she’s 5’2” (and overweight) so it’s harder to reach, enough to be an annoyance every time she washes dishes.

        Just don’t put your sink in the corner. There is no good solution

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        Ok, I’m super curious. By “In the corner” do you mean putting a sink on the actual corner unit? Or by the tablespace immediately next to it?

        In the case of the first one I totally get it. The corner unit is a cursed part of the kitchen anyway. If you mean immediately next to it, why not? Not disagreeing, just curious what a professional says.

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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          There are a couple of ways people do this.

          The “correct” way, or most correct way I guess, is to have a cabinet in the corner that is diagonal, at 45 degrees relative to the left and right cabinet runs. Example:

          You can buy premade angle cabinets that are designed for this, or you can just set a normal sink base cabinet at 45 degrees and mess around with fillers and so forth to space it out from the other two runs and hopefully ensure that there is sufficient clearance to open the doors and drawers on both it and the cabinets left and right of it. The disadvantage of this is it limits you to a surprisingly narrow sink, since it can’t be much if any wider than the face of the cabinet. And if you make the cabinet wider, you also have to bring it out into the room more and more as well, encroaching on your floor space. Normally people want to use a corner sink because they’re short on square footage anyway, so this is not ideal. Also, you inevitably wind up with a huge dead space behind the sink (that’s hard to reach, because there’s a sink and faucet in the way) and the further you bring out the face of the sink base cabinet the worse this gets.

          The other way is to just have a dead or blind corner with a typical 90 degree transition in it, and just plonk the sink diagonally in the dead space. Example:

          (This isn’t actually quite that as installed in a kitchen, but my low effort Google search did not turn up a great picture of this.) This has all the width limitation problems as the strategy above, but also forces you to stand in this stupid pie-wedge space with a hard corner in it, with the countertop edge digging into and the cabinet knobs hooking your belt loops all the time. It’s super annoying. In order to get a decently sized sink in here people often wind up pushing it back, and you’ll learn quickly that working in a sink that’s super far away is also really fuckin’ annoying.

          Plan C which is now becoming popular is what OP posted, a double sink that’s got the 90 degree corner built into it. This is the worst of both worlds, if you ask me, because you still have to stand in a pie wedge plus the sink(s) you get are super narrow, and your functional setup becomes fraught with additional peril because idiots and/or children can activate the faucet with it aimed at neither sink, soaking your countertop, cabinets, and floor.

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            Wow, thanks for the reply!

            That makes a lot of sense. I was trying to work out why a sink immediately next to a corner was bad, but now I know what you mean.

            I guess it’s a bad solution to trying to work around the problem of kitchen real estate, the same way trying to use for cabinet in the corner unit for anything is almost always a bad time.

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              The main reason it’s a bad idea is that 99% of the time the corner is where the seam is for the laminate skin, which is the weakest point in the counter and most likely to form gaps in the counter that water can get into and start to rot the plywood below. If you have granite I guess it would be less of a concern but I’m not familiar with the layout of those counters.

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        That does tend to happen. Even without swiveling the faucet, moving dishes between basins causes a bit of a puddle to develop. Thankfully I have a tiled floor so it doesn’t matter too much.

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          No, it’s a poor application implementation of a design not intended for that application.

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              If someone is forced to use a tool in a manner that it wasn’t designed to be used in and a mistake happens, that’s neither the designer’s or user’s direct fault; it is the implementor’s fault.

              You can be as careful and attentive as you can muster but that doesn’t change the fact that contrary design solutions were implemented and have rendered the use of the tool (the sink) both non-ergonomic and unintuitive. This will lead to accidents.

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      Yep, and they are actually awesome! I personally hate washing dishes when there’s a pile of them in front of you because of all the splashing. This layout makes cleaning so much easier. Additionally, you can put up some stuff for defrosting in the second sink

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      Could you just not put it there? I never known any sink in existence that is plumbed into the corner of the room, so presumably the piping has been redirected so that you need a corner sink, it’s literally the very definition of a solution looking for a problem and indeed a problem has to be created so the solution is required.

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          It does not matter if it was on sale or not. Somebody thought it is a good idea to produce this kind of sink, and they went ahead with it.

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        My guess is the handyman special. Bought the wrong hardware for another client months ago, and finally found a sucker that bought the “hey, I have a brand new sink that never got installed from another job collecting dust. I’ll hook you up”

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        Cut any corners! That’s funny because it’s on a corner, and it was cut! I get it!

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        Ironically they cut the corner that the sink was supposed to go to

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          Unless they went to a scratch-and-dent or secondhand place, then I can imagine it’d be a lot cheaper

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            Probably has a Habitat for Humanity Restore in the area. (It’s a thrift store that specializes in residential construction donations, so you can find sinks, cabinets, doors etc there)

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              I was just about to comment about ReStore. We’ve gotten some neat furniture (and discount countertops!) at two of our local ones.

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    The fact that this sink doesn’t have a channel for overflow from one sink to the other and has no other obvious overflow control is really bothering me…

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      Kitchen sinks don’t usually have an overflow

      Edit: I was thinking about bathroom sink style overflow

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        They usually overflow into the other side of the sink. There is a raised rim along the outside, and the area between the two is very slightly lower. This means that the water will overflow into the other side.

        Of course if both are full, all bets are off.

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        Sinks that are directly next to each other are usually separated by a divider that’s lower than the counter. I assume that’s what he’s talking about

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          Dunno about “usually”. Our last house was fairly nice, but didn’t have this sink feature. That said, you could walk around and see where the builder went for the cheapest option available.

          That said, this kitchen sink feature should literally be the absolute minimum for consideration.

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            It’s getting less common because it looks cleaner and functions better to have the divider flush with the sides. My sink is flat on top and it’s better because I can set what I’m washing out of the sink. It does get scratched up over time though.

            Cheap sinks have the rim they are describing. Expensive sinks usually have a low or no divider. It’s the mid teir that is going flush on top for some reason. It’s a completely useless feature IMO that makes the sink less useful.

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      While it would still be an abomination to me, it’s not impossible that the overflow holes are on the near walls which are not visible from this angle.

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      But it does… Both sinks are set into it slightly. It’s not fantastic but it should still work, assuming the counter is mostly level.

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    If you took the corner sink (installed not in a corner like that) but with a 3rd triangular sink in between the others… it would be terrible in entirely new ways!

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    Thank god for the red line, I wouldn’t be able to understand this meme without it.

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    I’m imagining a contractor telling the previous homeowner that they got the wrong sink, and the previous homeowner screaming at them to “just do your job and fix it” lol

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    I put one of these in a Victorian which had a kitchen being brought up to code. Doors and windows cut up the kitchen wall space, leaving this as an elegant solution to have an efficient kitchen. I did have to reinforce the seams behind and at the chevron cut at the sink edge. I liked working at the sink. Dishes were easy to reach, and water did not splash when handwashing dishes, but making more room for modern appliances was nicer. If the kitchen was not destroyed in a flood, I would still have it. I liked it.

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    I’ve only seen these and never used one. So I do not understand what is mildly infuriating about them. Is it just that water will spill if the faucet is in the middle?

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    It’d be better to have the three-sink setup they have in commercial kitchens which are stacked next to each other so you can move a dish to the next without dripping water all over the counter.

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      I worked with one. Soap scum stays on that middle metal thing because you’re transferring plates from one to another, and it’s always get pretty wet. It’s weird but how it looks like in the photo is extra weird.

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        Yeah. It’s slightly messy, but it’s ergonomic enough. I’m not sure why you’d choose to install it not in a corner, though; I guess they liked the way it looks but never actually do the dishes themselves?