I think for what the Rural Fire Service does they should be paid, what kind of first world country do we live in where we don’t pay all of our emergency services

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    If you don’t think we will need the defence force, especially since we’re apparently just going to go “fuck it roll them die” on our future with global warming, you are sorely mistaken.

    If our defence force is fucking around doing the job of emergency firefighters, because the government thinks having volunteer firefighters is appropriate, how do you think that will affect their combat readiness? With Russia invading Ukraine, China flying military aircraft towards and the planet on the verge of becoming uninhabitable; there will be plenty of chances for wars that aren’t “bogus” to emerge.

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        Very true. Plenty sitting around who could be on assignment in places that matter

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          “Between assignments” and “plenty of sitting around” shows me neither of you have any concept of the roles of any military let alone the ADF and any further discussion would not be an effective use of my time.

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            No, what I know is every one of my army buddies got sent into the middle of the fucking desert to work on HVAC units.

            Stop acting like bases in the middle of bumfuck nowhere are somehow important when the people stationed there LITERALLY refer to their work as sweeping sand in a sandstorm.

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              If you think that anecdotal story somehow justifies the idea of using the military to fight fires, I don’t know what to tell you. The fact the military has dudes who’s literal job it is to fix HVAC because the air con dying would fuck with operational readiness. How do you think having random amount of your service members tied up fighting fires would affect that readiness. It’s a ludicrous idea that doesn’t pass any test based in basic common sense.

              The whole hurry up and wait shit was because the US military valued its readiness and would rather have people standing around ready to go rather than the inverse situation. Especially since the amount of bushfires are predicted to increase and the fact that most militaries have area of denial weapons specifically to set large areas of land on fire… I don’t know what else I can say to make you see what a shit idea it is.

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            nah mate, i know plenty of ADF people and its all ‘busy’ work. im all for keeping them combat ready by the way, but training them to assist in fighting fires does seem like a win win, when the capacity is there