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    Couldn’t he only be pardoned for the federal level conviction and not the state? Looking at his Wikipedia article, he has a 21 year fed sentence and a 22.5 state.

    But yeah, this is a way to force violent protests and eventually martial law.

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      Maybe it won’t be protests this time and just 30,000 people turning his body into something that doesn’t resemble a human.

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    If Trump pardons him he still has 20+years of state sentence to finish, this is a distraction….

    They are about to do the biggest grift ever with the tax cuts for the rich.

    All of this is a distraction

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      Yup, same with the tariffs. Drop the stock market by two percent and as the richest person in the world you’ve just invested billions

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    I can nazi why not.

    I’m sorry, folks. I’m trying a variation on the old adage. I’m terribly sorry.

    Not for that cop, though, he deserves to rot.

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    Presidential pardons are one of the dumbest powers. Change my mind.

    (Plenty of more stable countries get on fine without it, and don’t have to deal with this nonsense to boot)

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      People lose their shit over jury nullification, yet somehow pardons are A-OK

      Pardons should not be a thing, in my lifetime its pretty much only been used for scummy shit.

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    The fact that Elon Musk is for pardoning someone who murdered an innocent person speaks volumes. Also, I can’t see how this wouldn’t lead to riots.

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      They want riots so they have a reason to put troops on the streets and “come down hard” to please their base.

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      Why haven’t there already been riots? Of all the reasons to start widespread riots, hasn’t the last 2 months given enough of them?

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    They’re trying to Reichstag fire up their own Reichstag fire. Martial law in America as a toe dip for their invasion of Canada.

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    This is the sleight of hand they want you paying attention to. Instead, keep an eye on the other hand;

    Because that is the one doing the damage.

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      The real trick is the fact that both of these do damage, and you can’t afford to ignore either.

      Signaling to the police that the executive branch has your back and will support you when you kill poor black men is going to get people straight up murdered.

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        He also has people’s back when they murder/injure police. So, if you’re a cop, do not take it as a show of support.

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      true, but also, there’s a point that laws don’t really exist anymore. it’s just gang shit. the cops are the gang that want to kill you rather than make a profit off you. there is no legitimacy, there is no reason to respect or obey them, and in fact they will kill you if you do.

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      Elon trying to use this to distract from all the federal firings he’s done

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    Chauvin would join Kash Himmler’s near future SA or NKVD private security detail. The single finger salute goes out to the neo-Nazis and their Government of Putin supporters.

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    If he gets pardoned I hope that will push the Americans harder to overthrow these sycophants. On the other hand it could be to try to trigger something so Cheeto Mussolini can crack down on the protests with violence.

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      There will be mass protests, looters will take advantage of these times. Martial law will be declared in those places and never given back. Nothing would make them happier

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        If the United States commits their military to enforcing martial law on their own soil then it’ll be more difficult for them to escalate their current economic wars into actual wars.

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          I still have hope in our military. I sincerely hope they’d never follow those orders. I have infinitely more respect for the army than the police.

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    Can someone kick off from ketamine? Cos I really hope he just does a little too much one night

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      Not really. And I wouldn’t pin this behavior on something that has therapeutic use anyway, ketamine deserves better.

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    They just want to cause riots. Trump and Elon are agitators.

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      This. I’m convinced at this point they’re attempting to instigate riots so they can declare material law and seize full control over the US government.

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        I know it a typo, but declaring it, would be the last step of making material law the ultimate authority. Taking Capitalist Fromm late stage to endgame.

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      I agree. This is just intended to cause civil unrest to distract from everything else they’re doing to tear America apart.

      But also, Musk is a Nazi.

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    They reeaally doing anything they can to get that martial law step started from their project 2025 handbook

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          for all the guns americans have, theyre clearly too cowardly to use them for anything outside of school shootings

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            Exactly. Just shows you what a bunch of pussies they really are. I’d kick so much ass in an elementary or middle school. i wouldn’t even need a gun.

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              You don’t get to watch our local news reports. Plenty of people get smoked every single day by gunfire. Fuck someone’s wife , cut them off in traffic , call them a snitch ,bump into them in a bar, throw snow from your driveway onto theirs 💥💥💥. It could be anything that gets a bunch of new holes added to your meat suit

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                Sure but they all whine they need them for incase government be bad. Now we have a situation and they are all quiet. The only reason Americans need guns is to make the small minded can’t see their own penis men fell powerful. I have never once in my life thought I sure would feel safer with a gun. Ok maybe but not in the city.

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                Is that supposed to prove Americans are not a bunch of cowards? Because it does the opposite.

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            Are you just ignoring all the instances where this statement isn’t true or do those not count because two guys you don’t like are still alive?

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                I’m assuming you’re saying this because no one has killed Trump or Musk yet. That’s sort of nonsensical considering the former has had at least two attempts on his life in the last year. Important people get shot at on a fairly regular basis in America.

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          Does it matter though? The people with the most firearms are the most indoctrinated. And besides that, Americans have always talked about needing the right to bear arms to dispose of a tyrannical government, but it seems like people aren’t even putting in the effort to vote or protest, let alone taking out the fascists. So what exactly is the point of all the guns? Besides the purpose of supplying all the criminals in both Mexico and Canada with illegal weapons

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        Be careful with your reasoning, my friend. Just because they want it doesn’t mean they would survive it.

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        Not saying you’re wrong just want to understand youre thinking why would they want riots? Isnt that the only real threat to them?

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          Triggering division as an excuse for suppression is Dictator 101.

          Your political opponents are lawless? That means you can legally crack down on them.

          It has the side benefit of stirring the shit/divisions which is what keeps Trump in place.

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              Mhm. It’s understandably counterintuitive, and indeed a problem for “regular” politicians.

              You’d think it would make Trump lose support, and to some extent it does, but I guess you also have to understand how warped the US information environment is. Anyone who cares about George Floyd and actually sees this in their news feed would not support Trump anyway, whereas that’s not the case for nearly any past president. Supporters who see the riots would write them off as not Trumps fault.

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          Enact martial law, take over all legislation, be a dictator. Job done.

          That’s why he’s firing everyone at the top of the military who isn’t a white male.

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          trump has been looking to apply the insurrection act since his first term. with the various sycophants in congress and the executive, there has never been a more opportune time (other than tomorrow, of course).

          as to why… well, trump has gotten even more messianic since his first term. suppression of dissent would be a powerplay that may yield significant dividends, showing loyalists the need to stay in the camp and detractors what happens when you resist.

          just my 0.02

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          Authoritarians equate fear with respect. Aggressively putting down a riot makes people scared = people respect them. It is the same reason Putin jails critics inhumanely or Kim kills families of defectors in NK. If people lose their fear of them these despots are powerless.