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  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    So basically:

    1. He went to Ireland with his vaccinated new wife.
    2. While there he got covid, but she didn’t. Probably because she was vaccinated.
    3. He recovered but ended up with long covid.
    4. To fix a completely misdiagnosed issue, his parents took him to a quack chiropractor, who tweaked his neck the wrong way and caused him to have a stroke.

    But yeah, the real reason for all his problems is a magical contagious vaccine. I swear this reality is so fucked because of these people.

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      I know covid is associated with weird clotting issues, I’d bet money that combined with the “adjustment” contributed to the stroke. If any of the story is true ofc

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          Can also happen at the hair stylist (crazy crazy rare), the chair they wash your hair in puts strain on the neck in a similar fashion to a chiropractic ‘adjustment’.

          I get migraines after a hair appointment. Thought for years it was from the chemicals in the hair products. After a discussion with my physio about my migraines, he suggested not having my hair washed for the same reason he rants about chiropractors. Next appointment, I arranged to arrive with my hair already washed and still damp - no migraine after. (I quite like the stylist that allowed this for me, she told me she now suggests to her clients who get migraines after having their hair done they do the same, hopefully with similar results as me.)

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        Chiropractic strokes are a known thing, and Kevin Sorbo is one of the known victims. I think he was already an asshole before it, but it certainly didn’t make him less of one if so.

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          No not Hercules. Next your going to tell me Lucy Lawless is an asshole.

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            As far as I know she’s cool and calls him out, but due to my entertainment choices (various podcasts calling out or making fun of grifters) I haven’t really looked into her.

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        My wife’s best friend is a nurse, before covid she told me that she had four patients that suffered a stroke after visiting a chiropractor. Back pain can be awful. I’ve known a couple of people who who were helped by them.

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    Why would you go to a chiropractor for any medical problem? Get a tarot reading and a horoscope, the results will be just as useful.

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      My neighbor is a neurologist and told me that an astoundingly high number of people who come to the ER due to a stroke had recently had a rapid neck adjustment by a chiropractor.

      I will never go to a chiropractor after what she told me.

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      You may very well think that, but my mum had a cold and went to a chiropractor, and within a week the cold was gone.

      Fucking miracle, mate.

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      There is some (light) evidence that some of the adjustments may be beneficial with some back issues, etc.

      Having said that, the field of chiropractic medicine is, just like homeopathy, medical quackery and should be outlawed.

      The few accidentally beneficially things should be included with other medical fields, and this nonsense should just be prohibited.

      I’m tired of the vast majority of people holding on to childhood beliefs and just letting that grow and fester to the point where they believe absolute nonsense. Yeah, pyramids under my bed will help me sleep because they channel my chakras on June the 15th because I’m a scoprio, or some other utter nonsense. Same as praying to Jesus as night. All of it is at the level of still believing in Santa Claus and the easter bunny. Grow up, become responsible adults, please.

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        The thing with chiropractors is they essentially market themselves as specialty doctors, and most people think they actually are medical professionals.

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        I went to a chiropractor until she told me that the inventor of the practice had once cured someone’s blindness.

        “Bullshit,” I immediately thought, and never went to any chiro again.

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      Some of them dabble in physical therapy and do some useful stuff. I think that may be why they keep a better reputation than, say, homeopaths.

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        My mom goes to a quack chiropractor. He mostly sells her vitamins (by magically divining what she’s deficient in using straight-up fraud “kinesiology”) but keeps her believing by occasionally giving her medically significant advice. He’s still grifting her decades later off of saying she was deficient in magnesium after she complained about constipation. Yeah mom, it worked because that stuff is a laxative. No mom, he couldn’t tell you were deficient because your arm was stronger while holding a vial of magnesium. He’s just changing how hard he pushes on you. It’s fraud mom.

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      I was willing to accept that maybe there’s some actual medical use for chiropractors except now a large chiropractic chain is one of my clients at work and along with their rampant HIPPA non-compliance I’ve gotten to see how the sausage is made, how much of a conveyer belt they designed that does not stop long enough for any real personalized patient care I trust them less than I ever did (another client is the fact that they also own a chain of “natural medicine” stores which they often place in the same buildings as their chiropractic clinics)

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      I’ve had a good experience with a chiropractor I’ve been to. Did some “adjustments” and gave me some exercises to work out my muscle problems where I’ve been feeling pain in my neck and shoulders. Did those exercises everyday and they definitely helped out. I haven’t been back in like a year or two with no plans of coming back.

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        Sounds like unlicensed physical therapy.

        Though in the past my parents sent me to a chiropractor and I’ll be honest getting your neck precisely cracked the right way does feel magical.

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        Huh so that sounds like physio. You know probably more helpful then the actual chiropractor part.

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      I go to a chiropractor for chronic back pain. they do wonders. the trick is to find someone with actual qualifications, not the sketchy ones that hurt peoole

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    I can translate. Someone told them that being infected with covid was effectively equivalent to being vaccinated, and they took that the wrong way. The rest is just fear of things they don’t understand.

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    Everyone knows that sleeping with a vaxxed person transmits the vaccine into your bloodstream. He’s lucky he survived.

    /s

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      Yeah a chiropractor-caused stroke was my first thought too. Some of those guys go way beyond their remit with what they think they can cure with fancy back cracking.

  • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.world
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    Transcript for those who don’t want to try to read through the awful quality of this image

    Just had to share. My son, unvaxxed, married a wonderful girl Sept. of 2024. She is vaxxed. They went to Ireland for their honeymoon, and I realize that change of pressure in the plane probably contributed. He came back from the honeymoon sick with Covid. After covid, neck pain that kept him awake at night. My husband suggested that I take him to our chiropractor. After the adjustment he immediately noticed that his vision was not in sync with his brain. Turned out he had a stroke. He’s 29. He is doing fine now, but another chiropractor told me that for all intents and purposes, my son is vaxxed, and that chiropractors are being notified not to do any cervical adjustments on any patient who is vaxxed, and the lawsuits on chiropractors are rolling in, so people need to know

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        I’ll give a stab at it.

        Ahem

        " i don’t understand modern medicine, it scares me because I’ve been told to be afraid of things that are different and that I don’t understand. I use pseudoscience like chiropractors, who increase the risk of health issues, and I am incapable of seeing that the medical emergency my son went through was not caused by vaccines, but since I’ve been told they are the worst thing possible, all maladies must be ascribed to the vaccine"

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          Are you sure it wasn’t the airplane pressure or being in an elevator with an Irishman?

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    this happened to me too

    edit just the neck pain part friggin jetblue can you believe it i left my neck pillow at home and all they had were crumby inflatable ones i should have sued

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    Surely then he should go to a homeopath and buy some very expensive water in which an undetectably tiny amount of the vaccine has been repeatedly diluted. That should unvax him in no time.

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      Throw and onion into a Olympic sized pool scope some water up and throw that into another Olympic sized pool and you have homeopathic medicine. What a bunch of hogwash.

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          Say a mildly believable statement and combine it with something less believable or unrelated. Then say a punchline and you have a joke. What a bunch of hogwash.

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            There was absolutely no punchline in my statement; it was quite literal. My statement was intended to illustrate exactly how diluted homeopathic medicine is. If anything, you could call it hyperbole.

            I can only assume that you interpreted my use of the word “hogwash” as pretentious, which was not my intention. Once again, I was simply using the word to emphasize the absurdity of homeopathic dilution.

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              I think it’s important for people to understand that mechoman wasn’t trying to make light of rhe situation or any kind of joke about homeopathy.

              His explanation of homeopathy was accurate: Homeopathy operates on the principle of “like cures like,” meaning it aims to treat a disease by administering highly diluted substances that would produce similar symptoms in a healthy person, with the belief that the extreme dilution process somehow retains the healing power of the original substance and stimulates the body’s self-healing mechanisms. Of course there is no scientific evidence that such a strategy has any effect or positive results at all.

              In this context, “hogwash” is an entirely correct word to describe the extreme ridiculousness of homeopathy. “Hogwash” can be defined as nonsense or bullshit.

              I hope this explanation will be helpful to those struggling to understand the very valid point that mechoman shared with us.

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                The whole ‘likes cures like’ of ‘homeopathy good’ but ‘vaccines bad’ cracks me up.

                One molecule in a dilution (that your immune system doesn’t even see) is good, but a vaccine that makes your immune system to do the heavy lifting against the real thing is bad? Oh for fuck sake.

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                  “Oh for fuck’s sake” ndeed. I can’t decide if it’s funny or sad. So many poorly educated and naturally dumb-ass people keep falling for bullshit. As they say, there’s a sucker born every minute.

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                  I don’t think sarcasm is the correct word to describe the attitude, intent or spirit of my post. Homeopathy really is complete bullshit. You are absolutey correct in pointing out how stupid and nonsensical it is.

                  I did however find it funny that you explained the original comment about homeopathy, and then clarified your explanation. It amused me to keep it going by explaining your explaination, and now here I am taking it a step further by explaining my explanation of your original explanatory post.

                  I’m not sure this could get any more meta. Anyway I never intended sarcasm, just pure ridiculousness.

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              Oh shoot, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to make it seem like I was piling on or making fun of you.

              I didn’t understand that you were specifically trying to be hyperbolic vs your hyperbole being part of you venting about the absurdity of homeopathy. But the fact that corsicanguppy did a shorthand version of [email protected], I was trying to explain a joke in the most bland terms possible.

              My callback to “hogwash” was literally just to somewhat tag you or the next commenter in for them to then do essentially as you just did, except for comedic purposes—such as explaining what a sarcastic explanation is.

              Either way, it seems that I’ve insulted you, and I apologize for miscommunicating my intent. Your original comment was very concise and explanatory. Had I successfully conveyed the dry humor I was attempting and had your reply been a comedic attempt at over-explaining, it would have been the greatest organic McGillicuddy and Green ever. Instead, I came off as an asshole and accidentally diminished your comment. Sorry about that…

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    Get vaccinated and don’t go to chiropractors (at least not before going to a real doctor first).

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      Get vaccinated and don’t go to chiropractors (at least not before going to a real doctor first).

      Fixed that for you. There is no situation that going to a chiropractor would be a good idea. They are not medically trained. They are charlatans full stop.

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        There’s a chiropractor near me who also has a master’s degree in sports medicine. He has being on the medical team for several national teams at multiple Olympic Games. Local doctors refer patients to him and some of them go to him themselves.

        I agree that the majority of chiropractors do little good, and sometimes a lot of bad, but certainly in this case he has been able to achieve results that doctors could not.

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          I have a theory that the “good chiropractors” are just people with physical therapy/sports medicine training that call themselves chiropractors to trick people into seeing someone that knows what they’re doing.

          My mom got referred to one for some pain she was having and he (as far as I know) didn’t do any quack shit. She was given advice on better posture. some stretches to do, and some other reasonable stuff.

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            Exactly, it’s just marketing for them. I bet they see the business opportunity in the number of ppl looking for chiropractors, so they do some course and get certified easily next to their real medical degree. Funnily enough, they probably do a good job due to the e.g. sport medicine stuies and experience, this perpetuating the positive image of the chiropractor “profession”

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          Your anecdote is nice. But chiropractic is not medicine. It is “alternative”, ie doesn’t actually help. Sports medicine? That’s a real thing that people go to actual college for. Chiropractic? They have their phony schools with their quack medicine and theories. It wasn’t that long ago that the inventor of chiropractic believed everything could be solved through magnets.

          Don’t spread misinformation. At best, they provide false hope. And at worst they injure people.

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            Please don’t put words into my mouth. I never said that chiropractic is safe or useful. I said that this one chiropractor did exceptional work. People should beware of the pseudoscience of chiropractic, not of chiropractors themselves.

            Anything to do with adjusting spines is suspect and potentially lethal.