cross-posted from: https://mamot.fr/users/thibaultamartin/statuses/113879452911907737

Palms were offline devices that only synced with your computer when put on a docking station.

You could read and reply to emails offline, book or cancel meetings, and sync with your computer later. The latest versions allowed you to snap pictures and listen to your music.

No servers running constantly. No data spilled everywhere. Days worth of battery on a single charge.

The future stole our cables, and it took our attention span and our privacy with it.

#privacy #offline #data

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    they (or at least the later palm pilot) had a surprisingly robust system for recognizing handwriting! individual characters had to be single strokes, and you needed to write each one a buncha times to calibrate initially so it has something to compare against, but i remember it being notably faster to type with than other contemporaneous tiny keyboards.

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    Got to put a carefully cut strip of scotch magic translucent tape over the stylus square for both protection and friction enhancing

    Always practice safe graffiti

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    It really is too bad that commercial solutions for true privacy focused syncing and wireless backups will only get worse if they were ever good at all. I think of products like the Ring Doorbell where there’s no reason the doorbell itself can’t be it’s own local server. The only reason to tie you to a cloud is to implement monthly fees while also harvesting your data. The idea of an open standard where multiple devices could connect to any cloud service (self hosted Next Cloud or commercial solution etc) will likely disappear with the direction we’re going. It’s a sad time for tech and an even more sad time for society worldwide.

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      Smartphones are nothing more than gentrified PDAs…

      Less any semblance of privacy? We can still have the impression we’ve some control over what it does but for how long?

      My last PDA was a Palm Tungsten T5, liked it a lot ;)

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    38 minutes ago

    Holy crap, I have the exact same model still somewhere in the basement. It was so incredibly cool at the time. I felt like I was living in the future. Until I got my first mobile that is. Carrying two gadgets was just too much.

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    My t5 tungsten didnt have wifi, but there was bt and ir. and you could buy a wifi card.

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    They’re shockingly useful today as a tool to manage ADHD, since they have a buncha organizational software baked into the OS, with plenty of other productivity apps still available for download off of PalmDB, without the connectivity nor distractions of a modern smartphone. I’m using a Sony PEG-UX50, which uses PalmOS 5, has a built in keyboard, and expandable memory (in the form of Sony Memory Sticks, cause Sony was addicted to format wars at the time.)

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        It’s smaller than I was expecting, but in fairness modern smartphones are gigantic. It’s perfectly sized for comfortable usage of the keyboard, and is genuinely worth grabbing one if the interest and budget are there for it.

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    On a single charge? The Palm Pilot used 2xAAA batteries. You could use rechargeables, I suppose, but they would have been NiCads, not Lithiums, in the 90’s. More likely you were using disposables.

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      14 hours ago

      My Zire71 had a LiIon battery that did require charging.

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      I don’t recall for sure with all of them. Mine was 2 AAA, my boss had a rechargeable in 1999. I still have this one.

      About 2005 I picked up a Treo, almost positive that one was lithium (it was a cell phone). Though it may have been NiCd.

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      The good old days of screaming through the house not to pick the phone up, dialing in, downloading emails and usenet messages, cutting the connection and screaming the all clear through the house.

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      The boss already had wifi. But it was a large external antenna and the speeds were terrible.

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        Whoa, that sounds interesting!
        (I should have clarified that I meant like the first laptops, at the dawn of computer intraconnectivity)

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    The III had an IR sync as well, but you had to initiate it and it was line of sight with the IR port on your computer.

    I had it working with my Rev. B iMac.

    Man, I miss my Palm III. Left it in a jacket pocket too close to a wall heater. :(

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      I think the Palm m125 is the best case scenario for running a PalmOS device nowadays because it was the last one that ran on AAAs. The m100 does as well but it has a quarter of the RAM and a slower processor, plus no SD card slot, though it’s REALLY hard to find SD cards small enough to work in a Palm anymore.

      Also, they made a USB sync cable for the m100 but I haven’t been able to track one down, there’s a guy on eBay who has a pallet of their RS-232 sync cables but virtually none for USB. The m125 came with a USB docking cradle so it’s a lot easier to sync with a PC, though good luck finding 64-bit drivers.

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        You should be able to get a generic RS-232 to USB cable that will work as an adapter. They’re still used for microcontroller and old hardware.

        As for drivers, run the software in a VM with a 32 bit OS. That may work.

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        My handwriting went from perfect block lettering (engineer/draftsman) to unintelligible scrawl when I learnt graffiti.

        I still try to use graffiti when I try to “type” on my AppleWatch.