Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.

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    2 days ago

    So fucking idiots were idiots, as usual. And they believe they’re somehow morally superior while handing Gaza over to Israel in the process. As if Trump and the Republican party was the better option, they care even less about Gaza than the Biden admin.

    This is why the Dems and progressive both keep losing everything, too many dumb fucks that think they’re making a difference while just making things worse with inaction.

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      Maybe if Democrats stop taking entire demographics for granted without providing them with anything, they’d win more.

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      You know, while I am a fan of choosing the lesser evil, when the “lesser evil” is genocide, maybe it is time to re-consider the approach.

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        Their response was to avoid it, resulting in the worst option by default.

        It was clear this would be the result. Choosing not to vote was the worst option to choose both objectively, and morally. And considering the entire supposed reasoning was moral, they failed spectacularly.

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          Choosing not to vote was the worst option to choose both objectively, and morally.

          Strictly speaking, assuming Democrats care about winning elections, it is not true.

          Sure, you get the worst option for one or two terms, but you would hopefully force the Democratic party to reform and stop supporting Genocides in the long term.

          This is why I hate when people try to shift the blame on voters. This was 100% the Democrats election to loose, and they did.

          You can’t really change the voters, so what is the point of complaining about them? You can change the party to allow it to win the next time. Blaming the voters is just distracting from that.

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            Sure, you get the worst option for one or two terms, but you would hopefully force the Democratic party to reform and stop supporting Genocides in the long term.

            I’m not entirely convinced that the USA still has terms.

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              If ye mean it as a meme, then yes, haha.

              If you are actually worried, then don’t be. However much capitalists may suck, they won’t allow a dictator who could confiscate their wealth to take over. It’s against their own self-interest. And they have enough influence over media, politicians and probably some assassins to remove Trump if needed. That’s why communist democracies turn authoritarian pretty much on day one, while the very capitalistic ones tend to survive.

              If Trump was actually smart and competent, maybe there would be a risk, but as is, I am not worried.

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                On the other hand, I bet they would love to have a dictator THEY can control. Trump is very easy to manipulate. It’s much cheaper to give Trump a bribe than to spend billions influencing the voters. Take Elon Musk, for example. He spent 44 billion dollars to control Twitter, and it didn’t even work right. The platform is dying. 44 billion to control the internet’s agora, and then he broke it with his incompetence. On the other hand, 277 million to buy Trump is a fantastic investment.

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                  And it is infinitely safer to pay off the next president as well, then to remove the safeguards that protect them from government power.

                  No, if anything, I expect them using Trump to rig the next election even more, so they can control future puppet presidents even better. Not in obvious ways like ballot stuffing. But campaign donations, access to information, etc. And rotate the puppets out before they can get too powerful and dangerous.