Russia says it might build its own Linux community after removal of several kernel maintainers
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“It is important to create conditions for cooperation, which can help develop a unique product,” Russia's digital ministry said in response to 11 developers being delisted from maintaining the Linux kernel.
  • palordrolap@fedia.io
    431·
    24 days ago

    North Korea did this already. I expect that Russia’s effort will be as good if not better. Bonus comedy points if they use NK’s effort as a starting point.

    But I wouldn’t try to use it if my Internet location was outside Russia. Or maybe even if it wasn’t.

    Also: something something falling out something something Windows.

    • ma1w4re@lemm.eeEnglish
      151·
      23 days ago

      I’m not gonna use this shit regardless. Even if it remains the only option for an OS in Russia, I’m gonna fucking smuggle a proper Linux distro in.

      • palordrolap@fedia.io
        52·
        23 days ago

        In before you’re going to need a telemetry spoofer in order not to attract attention. On the other hand, it takes an extraordinary amount of government paranoia before they start going after random citizens.

    • potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fishEnglish
      51·
      23 days ago

      I imagine Russia will do far better because they are not completely isolated from the rest of the world like North Korea.

      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        23 days ago

        And they have a much more literate and especially tech literate population. And way more money than NK.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      11·
      23 days ago

      Somebody once was showing me a modified version of Windows XP and I’m sure it was a North Korean version. But I can’t find it now.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5010·
    24 days ago

    It will work just like every other Russian knock-off thing that gets made. Very shittily, and then end up in the bin.

    Aren’t they still also trying to make their own Steam? 🤣

    • ChicoSuave@lemmy.worldEnglish
      211·
      23 days ago

      It will end up like every other Russian knock-off: made by the Chinese when Russia eventually gives up

      • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
        133·
        23 days ago

        Nah, it goes WAY back to pre-WW2. Russia basically made copying everyone else’s technology a major economic driver for them for decades, and it was all based around trying to sucker poorer countries into buying their awful products.

        Cameras, radios, cars, weapons. Hell they even stole NASA Space Shuttle designs and tech to build their own, which just ended up in a junkyard.

        • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
          62·
          23 days ago

          And the Buran system was more impressive than the shuttle, capable of completely automated flight!

            • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
              63·
              23 days ago

              I don’t think it was ever confirmed. They only flew the thing once, which was confirmed. Anything else claiming superior tech I’d call USSR propaganda.

            • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
              32·
              23 days ago

              I’m not sure whether the orbital flight counts as test or operational, but that one. The prior test flights only had automated landings.

          • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
            43·
            23 days ago

            So they say but since it never even went into space it’s a bold claim.

            • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              23 days ago

              I’m reading that it orbited at an altitude of up to 263 km, well above the Karman line. Is that not space?

              • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
                21·
                22 days ago

                Well that’s debatable but really the point is it never did a re-entry so we really don’t know how reusable it would have been.

                • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
                  11·
                  22 days ago

                  If it didn’t do a reentry, how did it get down from that altitude?

            • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
              43·
              22 days ago

              It’s just like their foxbat claims…turned out it was a flying brick.

              Edit: apparently I pissed off some tankies lol

              It’s well known that the foxbat was heavily exaggerated in its capabilities. It’s how we ended up with the f15 and it’s insane capabilities. Just like now russia fighting in Ukraine, paper tiger.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
        2·
        23 days ago

        Of course everything’s made by China anyway including all the high-end stuff. The exception being computer chips.

  • RxBrad@infosec.pubEnglish
    433·
    23 days ago

    The fact that the Russian government came out this fast and said they need a version with their own commits is, perhaps, telling.

  • Alex@lemmy.mlEnglish
    19·
    24 days ago

    It depends what they want to do. They can fork and take on the burden of maintaining the whole tree in which case good luck with that, linux is too much of a fire hose to enable a 3rd party to assemble something similar making different choices about what they merge. Otherwise they can maintain a re-based fork that tracks the Torvalds tree and then congratulations you’ve just invented a feature tree that can do contribution with extra steps.

  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    248·
    22 days ago

    A special forking operation will be underway. The new kernel will be complete in just a few days, like the inva- er… denazification of Kyi- er… Kiev.

    E: lol, fuck off to the frontline and die for mother Ruzzia, tankies

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    175·
    23 days ago

    They’re just jumping the newscycle for the propaganda machine. Russian government doesn’t care about tech or linux unless it can help them deliver more bombs to Ukrainian babies and you don’t need to fork the kernel for that.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      24·
      23 days ago

      Pretty much no military in the world cares about Linux because you want an OS system that millions of people are familiar with, require no additional onboarding process, and has decades worth of documentation and trouble fixers.

      Microsoft have always produced stripped down locked down versions of Windows for them so there’s really no reason for them to care about any of Microsoft’s BS in the communal space.

      • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.oneEnglish
        62·
        23 days ago

        An air-gapped FreeBSD os is significantly more stable and more secure than a commercially available os used globally. Security is more important to militaries than the fucking end user experience.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
          2·
          22 days ago

          A gapped anything is going to be more secure than anything connected to the network. But if any I don’t see what the operating system has to do with it.

          Anyway that’s not really what I’m talking about, the laptops that are given out to soldiers in the field are windows laptops not Linux.

          • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.oneEnglish
            12·
            22 days ago

            How do you know this? Apologies, but I’m not going to believe a rando internet person’s comment and take it as fact at face value.

            • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
              1·
              22 days ago

              How do I know that the soldiers get Windows laptops?

              Because they do? They get Windows laptops. They don’t get Linux laptops.

    • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
      62·
      23 days ago

      I mean, they can just pull the current kernel, add a few patches and say it’s their kernel.

      Let’s be honest, cold war brought the space race, if this war brings the “year of Linux” race I’m not going to complain

      • ma1w4re@lemm.eeEnglish
        32·
        23 days ago

        That’s IF the would be even able to pull the kernel. I know how government grants work here. 70% chance that the money gets stolen and work is outsourced to some bloke who doesn’t know what git is.

  • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    6·
    23 days ago

    Astra (used in MIC) is outdated shit, RED OS (more commercial) is cooler and wine’d in a lot of our windows-oriented apps, but both would have a hard time without international community if threatened.

    That’s just some figureheads shitting with their mouths. There are millions of machines still running Windows with no way to change without a pushback from users and admins, and also some Linux machines that would only suffer if we branch out.