Election law experts said over the weekend that billionaire Tesla CEO Elon Musk's latest ploy to entice voters in battleground states to sign his "petition in favor of free speech and the right to bear arms" appears to be flagrantly illegal.
I read elsewhere that the issue was that you had to sign the petition to be eligible to win, and that you had to be a registered voter to sign the petition. So technically it was paying to get you to register. Which is not allowed.
I’m guessing it will also play into Trump’s voter fraud claims later. Use Musk’s petition as “proof” that votes for him weren’t counted/were converted to Harris/some other nonsense claim because it’s heavily implied if you’ve signed the petition that you would be voting for trump.
They don’t need real events to site as proof. They prefer to make them up. It buys time while opponents have to try to figure out the source of the claim. I mean if you are going to lie, this is a great plan.
Derek Muller, an election law expert at Notre Dame Law School, said Sunday that “when you start limiting prizes or giveaways to only registered voters or only people who have voted, that’s where bribery concerns arise.” “By limiting a giveaway only to registered voters,” Muller added, “it looks like you’re giving cash for voter registration.”
Does lemmy.ml prevent you from reading articles or are you being purposely obtuse?
Trump Backer Elon Musk Accused of ‘Clearly Illegal Vote-Buying’.
I’m not sure what reality you all are a pat of. I’m just sitting here reading and commenting on what was shared. It is a fact that Musk is not buying votes. Had the article made the claim that “Musk pays registered voters to sign a petition”, that would be legit.
The article didn’t make a claim. It’s reporting on claims made by other people. There’s more to an article than the title but even the title isn’t explicitly stating what he did is illegal. It’s literally reporting on people accusing him of it yet you latched on to the accusation like they’re reporting it as fact, also known as strawman.
And I’m ot running a brothel in my hourly motel outside of town. People rent the room for 2 hours, and it’s none of my business what happens between them and the housekeeper
I suppose you would have to look up the law against it and see what it calls the action. They could call it Mississippi steamboating if they wanted to. So the possibility it is called vote buying isn’t unreasonable.
But if you are just arguing that the headline is misleading… water is wet too.
I read elsewhere that the issue was that you had to sign the petition to be eligible to win, and that you had to be a registered voter to sign the petition. So technically it was paying to get you to register. Which is not allowed.
I’m guessing it will also play into Trump’s voter fraud claims later. Use Musk’s petition as “proof” that votes for him weren’t counted/were converted to Harris/some other nonsense claim because it’s heavily implied if you’ve signed the petition that you would be voting for trump.
They don’t need real events to site as proof. They prefer to make them up. It buys time while opponents have to try to figure out the source of the claim. I mean if you are going to lie, this is a great plan.
So, not “vote-buying”.
Does lemmy.ml prevent you from reading articles or are you being purposely obtuse?
So, not illegal vote buying. Correct?
Purposely obtuse, got it. Go strawman somewhere else
Title of article:
I’m not sure what reality you all are a pat of. I’m just sitting here reading and commenting on what was shared. It is a fact that Musk is not buying votes. Had the article made the claim that “Musk pays registered voters to sign a petition”, that would be legit.
The article didn’t make a claim. It’s reporting on claims made by other people. There’s more to an article than the title but even the title isn’t explicitly stating what he did is illegal. It’s literally reporting on people accusing him of it yet you latched on to the accusation like they’re reporting it as fact, also known as strawman.
Do you know if the “random $1 million payment each day to one registered voter” is actually random? Is Musk cherry picking a ‘specific’ supporter?
And I’m ot running a brothel in my hourly motel outside of town. People rent the room for 2 hours, and it’s none of my business what happens between them and the housekeeper
I suppose you would have to look up the law against it and see what it calls the action. They could call it Mississippi steamboating if they wanted to. So the possibility it is called vote buying isn’t unreasonable. But if you are just arguing that the headline is misleading… water is wet too.