• kowcop
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    The codebreaker/casino arc in The Last Jedi

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      5 hours ago

      If I had the chance to make edits to the script, I’d have done the following:

      • Replace the animals in the racing with podracers
      • Have the hacker guy drop the dreadnought’s shields for a moment to permit the Holdo manoeuvre

      The podracer stuff is basically just fanservice, but it’s very minor and not adding any more distractions than were already there, so I think that’s fine

      The hacker does have a motivation to ensure the empire doesn’t get a clean win. He profits from the war. He wants both sides to struggle. Doing this just as he leaves gives him an actual role beyond betraying Finn and Rose, makes sense for his motivations, and also explains why hyperspeed ramming doesn’t usually work in Star Wars

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        These are good changes. Also I would suggest that they should have switched it to the Leia maneuver instead of Holdo, have her use the force to put Holdo to sleep or something to save her life. If I remember correctly Carrie Fisher had passed away while it was still in post production?

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          Ahh, I forgot about that. I think they should have just committed to having Kylo Ren kill her. He pulled the trigger, after all, the intent was there.

          I liked Holdo as a character. I believe she was meant to come across as overbearing and arrogant because part of her role was to teach Poe that his recklessness was doing as much harm as good. He had to learn to work with other people, and Holdo was the one to show him that. She had to be (initially) unlikeable so that Poe would chafe against her command

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      I have so many complaints about that movie but THIS is number one. The entire thing is a complete waste of time, all set about because Poe got turned into an insubordinate, hotheaded moron. Doesn’t help that Holdo has a perfectly functional plan she won’t share with anyone instead preferring to let them believe they’re all going to die, but frankly the movie is just a series of stupid, terrible decisions in a row from every character and above all, the director.

      Can you tell I hate this movie?

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        The hyperspace collision as a weapon is worldbreaking.

        If that works in the Star Wars universe, in A New Hope, why didn’t the Rebellion just get large asteroids and attach hyperspace engines to them and aim them at the Death Star. Asteroids traveling at hyperspace speeds, especially hundreds of them would be unstoppable and not a single Rebel life would have been in danger.

        Poe got turned into an insubordinate, hotheaded moron.

        This made no sense to me. Poe, in the Last Jedi, acts completely different that Poe in the prior movie where he was calm, collected and rational. If they wanted a character to be hotheaded, introduce a new character.

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          Agreed on both points. Poe was done dirty, the Holdo Maneuver is OP af, and the entire movie was designed to show off and put the director’s personal stamp on the franchise more than it was attempting to respect the lore and its audience.

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            Not to be that guy but I’m still complaining about the silent space scene. The Last Jedi was the 10th movie in the franchise (12th if you count the animated movies and 13th if you count the made for tv Ewok movie) and it was the first time there was no roar of engines, no sounds of weapons fire, the sound effect of jumping to hyperspace didn’t even play. Star Wars isn’t 2001. It’s not set in our universe. In the Star Wars universe sound waves travel through space.