• basmati@lemmus.org
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    19 hours ago

    Democrats have no interest in democracy or anything that weakens their corporate power, like rcv/star/democratic voting methods.

    • rigatti@lemmy.world
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      18 hours ago

      I don’t think that’s true of all Democrats. Have there not been progressives pushing for alternative voting methods?

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        17 hours ago

        Almost entirely signal boosted as proof of a carrot that both will most likely never arrive, and most likely won’t change anything even if it did arrive. There’s a large difference between individuals pushing for something and them actually managing to get them passed at a scale that matters.

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          7 hours ago

          okay but it’s been passed in plenty of your states and that hasn’t been without democrat party support

          you don’t just change the system overnight - change like that can take a lifetime, and it starts with signalling to move the overton window

          • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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            7 hours ago

            okay but it’s been passed in plenty of your states and that hasn’t been without democrat party support

            Very few states, actually, and it passed in Alaska in a Republican state. Overall, it has weak momentum.

            you don’t just change the system overnight - change like that can take a lifetime, and it starts with signalling to move the overton window

            How do you signal to “move the overton window?” Prayer?

            • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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              7 hours ago

              How do you signal to “move the overton window?” Prayer?

              If only there was some kind of smaller election before the general election where we get to vote on who represents the Democratic party…

              • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                7 hours ago

                If only we could vote on leftist candidates in the primary for the DNC, as though it isn’t a grand filter before anyone even gets to run…

                • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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                  2 hours ago

                  Is there a sitting member of the Democratic party that you would consider a “leftist” or one that holds leftist values?

                  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                    1 hour ago

                    Depends on what you mean by “leftist values.” The closest is probably Rashida Tlaib, but in general “The Squad” consists of Social Democrats, which I would consider Center-Right.