Russian President Vladimir Putin has suffered an emabarassing setback as his feared Satan 2 nuclear arsenal failed four out of five missile tests, according to arms experts and satellite imagery from the launch site.

High-resolution satellite images of the launch pad at Russia’s Plesetsk test site, where the RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile exploded, shows extensive damage.

A crater approximately 60 meters wide at the launch silo at the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in northern Russia, along with visible damage in the surrounding area that was not present in images taken earlier in the month.

    • chellomere@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      Not so sure. What if these 4/5 nukes explode on the launch pad? Even if this is in a remote area you’ll cause some damage to your own country.

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        Most nukes are designed such that they only create a nuclear blast when detonated electronically.

        We’ve had nukes fall out of airplanes and explode, or nuclear-tipped missiles explode in the silo, without a nuclear blast.

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          All of those happened before the modern safeguards were adopted by the US. We’re lucky none of them went super-critical. We just don’t know for sure if the Soviet leftovers Russia has were upgraded to the same atandards.

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            All of those happened before the modern safeguards were adopted by the US.

            Which modern safeguards are you talking about? There’s been ~32 official broken arrow incidents between 1950 and 1980, and multiple safeguards were tried during that period. Modern 2 point detonation safety goes back to the early 60s

            We just don’t know for sure if the Soviet leftovers Russia has were upgraded to the same atandards.

            We do know the soviets had their own share of accidents. I wasn’t able to find any info on soviet nuclear weapon design safety mechanisms, but I feel like we’d have seen at least one nuclear blast if they didn’t have them.

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      Yeah, this is the wildest headline. “Don’t fear it, it only works 20% of the time!” Both the US and Russia have somewhere around 1700 known deployed nuclear warheads able to be launched from air, land, and sea. 20% is still 340 nuclear bombs, all of which are substantially larger than the ones dropped in Japan.

      The fucking audacity to downplay nuclear war.

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    ok slightly unrelated but the satellite pictures have an insane resolution for having been taken from, you know, space

    The pics

    Just imagine what the government has if that’s what’s available commercially to the public

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    Who would have thought that simply robbing an entire nation and giving all the proceeds to your corrupt friends would lead to an inability to manufacture practically everything? TIL

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      And I bet the ones who had an issue with corruption tended to be more competent than those who were ok with it, biasing those who sent to gulags or slipped out of open windows towards those who could compensate for the corruption.

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    I’m sorry, the what missile? I know there’s already “hellfire” missiles, but proclaiming a sequel to Lucifer Morningstar seems a bit silly.

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        It is not the NATO reporting name, as I detail in my comment. That’s associated with an older missile.

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    It can carry multiple warheads, including nuclear ones, with estimates suggesting it can deliver up to 10–15 independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs).

    Oh good, if only one single missile in Russia’s entire arsenal goes off, we’d only loose 10-15 cities.

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      MIRVs have been a thing for like 50 years.

      The US even took them out of submarine launched missiles, because they made the soviets so nervous we had to promise that we couldn’t delete half of their country in 15 minutes.

      But don’t worry, nuclear war happens so fast, and diplomatic channels are so slow, if anyone launches anything, everyone is practically forced to launch everything or risk losing it. So even if Russia did just launch one to destroy 10-15 cities, all of the cities everywhere would be destroyed anyway.

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        If you ever look up at the sky and see 5-10 diagonal lines almost in parallel… well, if you have a firearm nearby, that would be a good time to self-exit for sure.

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          I live right next to one of the largest airports in the world.

          I see 5-10 parallel lines in the sky multiple times a day.

          I also live next to one of the largest airports in the world, which is a few miles from a national guard base located right outside one of the largest cities in America.

          I’m probably in the fireball radius of a nuke, assuming the Russians haven’t been embezzling their government money and are still fueling their hydrogen bombs, so if the big red button gets pushed, I’ll just get vaporized about half an hour later.

          Don’t shoot yourself just because you see lines in the sky. You’re either close enough to civilization for planes to make lines in the sky, in which case the bombs will probably get you anyway, or you’re so far out in the sticks that you’ll have plenty of time to make a decision.

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            Shit. We just had an airshow here and I was about to look for my ticket for self exit. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Really hard to adhere to quality if money is being pocketed at every corner and then spend outside the hellhole you created.

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    Try to copy Ukrainian missile from 58 years ago

    Fail

    Second greatest military in the world!

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      Second greatest military in the world

      I think they might be second best in Russia by now lmfao

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      Try to copy Ukrainian missile from 58 years ago

      When both Russia and Ukraine were part of the USSR?

      Second greatest military in the world!

      The USSR hasn’t existed for >30 years, since then, Ukraine and Russia have done little but feed on its corpse. Does anyone honestly think modern Russia has a better military than China?

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        Good point. Failing to copy your own missile would be even worse, though.

        Does anyone honestly think modern Russia has a better military than China?

        A good number of people did until early 2022. It looked a lot better on paper.

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          A good number of people did until early 2022. It looked a lot better on paper.

          Did it? I remember a ton of propaganda about Putin and Russia going back to the Obama era, but then they’d show off stuff the USSR had developed to fight a war in Germany/Ukraine against late 1900s American equipment and tactics.

          Whereas China was showing off their modern fighters, tank and ship production, and an entire branch of the military dedicated to missiles, and greater numbers than any other military.

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            If you’re talking about the whole “human wave” thing in WWII, the ex-Nazis made that up for their memoirs. The old AskHistorians subreddit went into it once; basically the USSR fought the same way everyone else did.

            I think the smart money was still on China post 2010 or so, but there was actual debate. They had a lot of old weapon stocks, and a still respectable population, if not as huge as China’s.

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          No, the .ml moment would be something like “don’t believe your lying CIA eyes, all the non-Western nations are working together in beautiful anti-imperialist harmony and very competent”.

          This seems like a normal take from someone who happens to be on .ml.

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          I expected a .ml to show up huffing copium when I saw this thread, wasn’t disappointed. So predictable.

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            It’s copium to acknowledge that Ukraine and Russia were part of the same country 58 years ago, and that modern Russia and Ukraine are able to achieve far less than the USSR was? This is evidenced by both countries primarily fighting with 30+ year old weapons.

            I guess basic historical literacy is tankie shit now.

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    Ah yes, the moral military, the anti nazi military, the apparent good guys, according to tankies, use a weapon called the fucking SATAN

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      Well, you can’t pin that on Russia though. Their name for it is “Сармат”. (Samaritan). The name Satan 2 comes from the predecessor R-36 missile, NATO nickname “SS-18 Satan”.