“Federal Election Commission records show Stein paid $100,000 in July to a consulting outfit that has worked with Republican campaigns, as well as Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s independent presidential bid. The firm, Accelevate, is operated by Trent Pool. The Intercept reported that he appeared to be part of the mob that breached the grounds of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6., 2021. The Journal hasn’t independently verified the reporting.”
Comparing Russian influence on a compromised asset to lobbyists is a bit of a reach bud. But you do you!
Totally fine so long as it’s our rich people who control politicians, just so long as it’s not foreign rich people.
Nationalism is a hell of a drug.
Wow, wow. Have you seen Erin Brokovich? Do you think corporations have your best interest at heart? Johnson&Johnson gave generations of babies cancer with their talc. Just look up tort reform and tort cases. Watch the documentary Hot Coffee. Watch the documentary The Bleeding Edge about medical devices. How about the Oakville Blob scandal that happened during Clinton’s administration? What about social media companies and tech companies and the products they produce? What about environmental impacts of our companies and how those are genociding more people than actual active war?
And think about how insurance companies lobbied to prevent Medicare for All policies and the best thing we could get was Obamacare. Or how price gouging has been shown to have happened with current inflation around fucking FOOD prices. Ot how fucking taxes and tax breaks work.
They are literally killing us through abusive policies, inaction, medical neglect, starvation, climate change, and mismanagement. The Dems may be less fucked up than others, but they are absolutely fucked up.
Clinton was buddies with Epstein. They are NOT “for the people.” They are for the status quo.
The state of political discourse on Lemmy:
Jesus. You can’t make this up
Yeah, have you seen one of the most famous cases about companies killing people and not having ypur best interests at heart? Erin Brokovich to this day does this work.
Or if you don’t like that point - there’s literally dozens of other examples of corporate shittery.
I’m going to guess you’re a massive sexist based on the comment you made though.
What. The. Fuck. Are. You. Smoking.
Erin Brokovich is a great movie and her story is amazing. It’s a testament to the perseverance of an amazing person and the awful corruption in industry and lobbying.
What is asinine is bringing it up in a discussion such as this as if it’s some great testament or insight into the current state of affairs. Same goes for triangle factory fire. Are you under the impression we all woke up yesterday and you’re here to give us a community college social studies 101? What the actual fuck. And to call people sexist for pointing out the idiocy in this kindergarten level analysis is just the cherry on top. Fucking kill me already.
Okay, cool. So you DO understand why I brought her up in a list about corporations and how they harm the public. She’s a great classic example. Glad you admitted many of my examples were classics that would be mentioned in academia because they are notable.
What analysis am I making that is “kindergarten level?” I thought you just said it was college level? Social studies 101, no?
I’ve existed online for a long time. I used to be afraid to openly be a woman. I know how people treat me when they think I’m a woman versus a man. Yes, you and that other person come across as blatantly sexist. Any time I get unwarranted vitriol, it’s pretty obvious because I used to not get it when I was pretending to be a man. I can see how people (including mods on this sub) respond to the men I’m arguing with, give them sooooo much leeway to call me names and argue, but if I fight back and don’t act like a submissive woman, they try to punish me to get back in line. Hence why all misogynists are fascists.
Like here. The original commenter asked: “What are Dems shills for?”
I answered - corporations.
Then they wanted to know, essentially, if being a shill for a corporation was as bad as being a shill for a foreign hostile nation (Russia). Ergo, I bring up many notable cases where corporations have harmed people. More Americans have died to corporations than to Russia.
This is just true. So what’s so offensive about it you have to malign me?
Hey you’re right. Sorry having a bad day. I deleted my comments
Oh wow. Cool. Thank you. Unexpected but appreciated. Hope your day gets better 💛
The reason I pushed back has absolutely nothing to do wit your sex. Nothing you said pointed to anyone being able to determine your sex. So I don’t know how to be sexist to someone who’s sex I haven’t determined. You think it’s because Erin Brokovich is a woman??? Is that what you took out of my comment?
Jesus. Just end me already
My profile. My avatar. My username. All grill.
Saying stuff like “End me,” and “Jesus,” and “you’re juvenile,” isn’t a position. So ironic how much projection people do - you complain about argumentation and then proceed to comment with 2 terrible arguments that lack any refutations or substance. So yeah, I will assume that the random hostility for no reason is because you have something going on with yourself. It’s clearly not about what I actually said. Good luck with that.
Whatever you say kiddo.
What? I’m in my thirties and a sex worker. I’m not a “kiddo”
Mods, why was this comment removed? It violates no community guidelines.
If that’s what you wanted to have said- it’s good for you that you managed to say it, isn’t it?
Why wouldn’t I want to say that? I am an adult talking about an adult topic. I gave you numerous examples of Dems being a shill, which you literally asked for:
And neither I nor the other commenter are advocating for voting for Stein or Trump. Im voting for Kamala specifically because I think she will help sex workers. So it’s kinda funny how hostile you’re being with your little insults when we are on the ‘same side.’ Another Dem with the emotional and verbal abuse, you all can’t resist it, can you? And then Dems wonder why people aren’t motivated to vote for them lol.
What problems does Russian interference cause, that isn’t present with corporate interference? You assert they are totally different and being a shill for one is drastically different than a shill for another (admitting Dems are shills). Both are guilty of killing people and misinformation. It’s just who personally gets the financial benefits that changes. So how is being a shill for Blackrock so much better than a shill for Russia?
If Kamala was a shill for Russia and Trump was a corporate shill, but their policies were the same, would it be more moral to vote for who they shill for, or for the policies they say they will put forth?
Like if Kamala was a Russian asset, and Trump wasn’t, who would you vote for?
I don’t answer stupid hypotheticals asked by people in bad faith after they called me a coward.
You lost any chance to have a mature discussion on the topic.
Fine, I accept your forfeiture and loss.
It’s definitely proving my coward accusation wrong by running away from an argument you’re losing. Sir Robin ran away…
Forfeiture and loss….
Bud, you lost this shit before it started. And don’t think I don’t recognize your troll attempts by the way. Mods love it from what I understand. And based on your mod logs, you’re on thin ice as it is.
Toodles!