"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst ThƤlmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, ThƤlmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. ThƤlmann famously said that ā€˜some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forestā€™ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ā€˜social fascists.ā€™

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, ThƤlmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitlerā€™s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

  • geekwithsoul@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    How do you think legislation happens? This isnā€™t just ā€œthree peopleā€, this is a sitting Democratic Senator and two Democratic Reps. All with long histories in the party. Hell, Beyer was Lieutenant Governor of Virginia. These arenā€™t nobodies.

    And theyā€™re not just ā€œsaying that theyā€™d like to do somethingā€, this is actual legislation that was submitted in both the House and Senate. These kinds of bills may have to be introduced a number of times before they pass but Dems are the only ones doing the work to at least try and if nothing else keep the issue alive and active as a discussion.

    This is how the legislative process works all over the world, and if you canā€™t or wonā€™t bother to understand that, than I canā€™t imagine thereā€™s anything else really for us to talk about.

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      It has very little support, itā€™s DOA. Thatā€™s just what happens. Look at all of Bernieā€™s failed bills; they just donā€™t push the needle. You can tell me that at some point in the future the Rapture will definitely happen, the righteous will be saved and the sinners will be cast into perdition and so on, but I donā€™t see any reason to believe it considering the history of the Democrats for the last 40 years and their incredible ability to pretend to want good things while either conspiring with open rightists or making limp gestures like this.

      You will not see the Democratic Party vote its own power away, it just wonā€™t happen.