“I’m trying to decide if I want to go on record, and the answer is yes,” Frank Luntz told Piers Morgan Wednesday. “I think that he loses because of this debate performance.”
Only way out is through. The modern Republican Party is dead like the whigs, we’ll see what comes next. My guess is that (if we can avoid authoritarianism/fascism) more of the sane conservatives will partner with Democrats as a more explicit centrist party and progressives shift into their own party if they can develop a better local presence.
It’s too late for Trump to drop out now. Many state filing deadlines have passed, and I recall reading there are some states with extremely early mail-in voting where ballots are already being printed. Trump’s only path off the ballot is if God exercises His Ultimate Veto.
Like. I remember something about how (at least in some states) you’re really voting for a party ticket. And then the party that wins gets that many electoral college voters from that party who then vote. And I believe the only requirement is they vote for the party that won the votes to appoint them as electorers, and that’s not even a requirement everywhere.
It was the small piece of truth that led to Trump’s false elector plan last election. The only reason it didn’t work, was his false electors weren’t legitimately appointed.
So trump could both not be able to remove his name from ballots, but still drop out of the race and no longer be the candidate.
It’s two different things with an incredibly strong correlation, but they don’t always have to be the same.
I didn’t bother to dig in and verify that tho, I may be wrong. But I didn’t spend the time to do it and went off memory because trump just ain’t dropping out no matter what.
It’s not that you are voting for a party ticket, instead you are voting for electors picked by the party, with the only job of supporting the candidate. (In my state, the ballots even say we are voting for “Electors For …” .) And in some states, once the electors are chosen on that ballot, the law says they must vote for their pledged candidate. So it’s not easy for a candidate to just drop out. Those electors may not be given the choice to change.
Yeah our system drastically need reformed, there’s too much shit that’s different state to state, and waaaaaay too much of our current system relies on people doing what they’re supposed to.
It’s just crazy to me we’re almost a decade into trump and Dems aren’t desperately trying to shore up all these loopholes.
Except Trump’s famous “They’re eating cats and dogs” line came from JD Vance. The craziest part of the debate wasn’t even Trump’s to fully own. JD Vance quite possibly is worse than Trump in regards to likability.
So if Trump drops out, who the fuck in the Republican field replaces him? Ron Desantis?
Biden was/is beholden to his donors, they threatened to cut him off and he had zero chance without their money, he wasn’t a strong enough candidate.
trump is funded by foreign dictators, billionaires, and domestic idiots.
They’re not cutting off his funding no matter what. So he won’t be forced to drop like Biden.
Plus the only thing keeping trump out of jail is he’s a presidential candidate, dudes going to do everything he can to hold onto any scraps of immunity he can get. Biden doesn’t have to worry about that
Honestly trump dropping out is pretty much the worse thing that can happen to Kamala.
Just like the worst thing that could have happened to trump was Biden dropping out.
The only reason anyone could convince themselves trump or Biden was a good enough candidate, was if the only other option was trump or Biden.
Replacing trump wouldn’t just gain more republican votes, it’ll cost a lot that are only voting Kamala to stop trump.
trump just won’t do it, and no one will force him out
GOP is trump now. If he drops out 60% of the Republican voters would just write in
JesusTrump anyway.i wonder if voting trump out here would kill trumpism for good or are they too deep in orange shit to quit and will double down
Only way out is through. The modern Republican Party is dead like the whigs, we’ll see what comes next. My guess is that (if we can avoid authoritarianism/fascism) more of the sane conservatives will partner with Democrats as a more explicit centrist party and progressives shift into their own party if they can develop a better local presence.
It’s too late for Trump to drop out now. Many state filing deadlines have passed, and I recall reading there are some states with extremely early mail-in voting where ballots are already being printed. Trump’s only path off the ballot is if God exercises His Ultimate Veto.
I really don’t think so.
Like. I remember something about how (at least in some states) you’re really voting for a party ticket. And then the party that wins gets that many electoral college voters from that party who then vote. And I believe the only requirement is they vote for the party that won the votes to appoint them as electorers, and that’s not even a requirement everywhere.
It was the small piece of truth that led to Trump’s false elector plan last election. The only reason it didn’t work, was his false electors weren’t legitimately appointed.
So trump could both not be able to remove his name from ballots, but still drop out of the race and no longer be the candidate.
It’s two different things with an incredibly strong correlation, but they don’t always have to be the same.
I didn’t bother to dig in and verify that tho, I may be wrong. But I didn’t spend the time to do it and went off memory because trump just ain’t dropping out no matter what.
It’s not that you are voting for a party ticket, instead you are voting for electors picked by the party, with the only job of supporting the candidate. (In my state, the ballots even say we are voting for “Electors For …” .) And in some states, once the electors are chosen on that ballot, the law says they must vote for their pledged candidate. So it’s not easy for a candidate to just drop out. Those electors may not be given the choice to change.
Yeah our system drastically need reformed, there’s too much shit that’s different state to state, and waaaaaay too much of our current system relies on people doing what they’re supposed to.
It’s just crazy to me we’re almost a decade into trump and Dems aren’t desperately trying to shore up all these loopholes.
Shits just unnecessarily complicated
Except Trump’s famous “They’re eating cats and dogs” line came from JD Vance. The craziest part of the debate wasn’t even Trump’s to fully own. JD Vance quite possibly is worse than Trump in regards to likability.
So if Trump drops out, who the fuck in the Republican field replaces him? Ron Desantis?
We were all saying Biden would never do it.
Biden was/is beholden to his donors, they threatened to cut him off and he had zero chance without their money, he wasn’t a strong enough candidate.
trump is funded by foreign dictators, billionaires, and domestic idiots.
They’re not cutting off his funding no matter what. So he won’t be forced to drop like Biden.
Plus the only thing keeping trump out of jail is he’s a presidential candidate, dudes going to do everything he can to hold onto any scraps of immunity he can get. Biden doesn’t have to worry about that