Social media platforms like Twitter and Reddit are increasingly infested with bots and fake accounts, leading to significant manipulation of public discourse. These bots don’t just annoy users—they skew visibility through vote manipulation. Fake accounts and automated scripts systematically downvote posts opposing certain viewpoints, distorting the content that surfaces and amplifying specific agendas.

Before coming to Lemmy, I was systematically downvoted by bots on Reddit for completely normal comments that were relatively neutral and not controversial​ at all. Seemed to be no pattern in it… One time I commented that my favorite game was WoW, down voted -15 for no apparent reason.

For example, a bot on Twitter using an API call to GPT-4o ran out of funding and started posting their prompts and system information publicly.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/chatgpt-bot-x-russian-campaign-meme/

Example shown here

Bots like these are probably in the tens or hundreds of thousands. They did a huge ban wave of bots on Reddit, and some major top level subreddits were quiet for days because of it. Unbelievable…

How do we even fix this issue or prevent it from affecting Lemmy??

  • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.netEnglish
    121·
    2 months ago

    Every time I see this implemented, it always seems like screwing over the end user who is trying to join for the first time. Platforms like reddit and Tumblr benefit from a friction-free sign up system.

    Imagine how challenging it is for someone joining Lemmy for the first time and suddenly having to provide trust elements like answering a few questions, or getting someone to vouch for them.

    They’ll run away and call Lemmy a walled garden.

    • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
      61·
      2 months ago

      Platforms like Reddit and Tumblr need to optimize for growth. We need to have growth, but it is does not be optimized for it.

      Yeah, things will work like a little elitist club, but all newcomers need to do is find someone who is willing to vouch for them.

    • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nlEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      Platforms like reddit and Tumblr benefit from a friction-free sign up system.

      Even on Reddit new accounts are often barred from participating in discussion, or even shadowbanned in some subs, until they’ve grinded enough karma elsewhere (and consequently, that’s why you have karmafarming bots).

    • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      lol reddit isnt friction free anymore, most subs want you to wait weeks or months before you post.

      Same story, no experience, need work for experience, can’t get work without experience.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        When I moderated a sub on Reddit I think I implemented a requirement that a poster must have at least positive three karma.

        Was amazing how many scammers couldn’t even be bothered to do that little effort. Seriously they could have just upvoted each other but they couldn’t even do that.

        All you have to do is introduce the smallest barrier to entry and it cuts bots admissions by about 95% as most of them out there are only looking for the lowest common denominator. They are unwilling to put in any effort at all.

    • grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
      21·
      2 months ago

      My instance requires that users say a little about why they want to join. Works just fine.

      If someone isn’t willing to introduce themselves, why would they even want to register? If they just want to lurk, they can do so anonymously.

      EDIT I just noticed we’re from the same instance lol, so you definitely know what I’m talking about 😆