I recently discovered a company called Flock which apparently is building a massive surveillance network. I came across a reddit post on r/sysadmin where an admin received a request to install a black box device so that law enforcement could access cameras.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flock_Safety

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/how-to-pump-the-brakes-on-your-police-departments-use-of-flocks-mass-surveillance-license-plate-readers (disclaimer: I don’t support the political views of ACLU)

https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1eu0fje/local_police_want_permanent_access_to_our_cameras/

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    (disclaimer: I don’t support the political views of ACLU)

    The… political views? As in, where they decided to stop defending Nazis?

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      What are you dolts arguing about the ACLU comment instead of discussing the actual post?

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        Because in a way, everything is political, to someone, whether you like it or not. Even mentioning the ACLU could imply there is some agenda behind what OP is doing.

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          Engage with the fact that theyre tracking every car on the road in real time. Thats plenty political, so why focus on who’s talking about it?

          There hasn’t been a single other comment other than mine as of writing this thats actually talking about these cameras, you’re all just circle jerking about the righteousness of some.organization that isn’t even important to the discission.

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      They are fairly far left. I think freedom and privacy shouldn’t he political. That is why I felt the need to leave a disclaimer as there are some political statements in the page.

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        Do you mean that you don’t like the way they prefer to defend individuals against corporations rather than the other way around, or the way they don’t help people defend themselves against lawful and reasonable government action?

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          I don’t mean any of those things. I just want to point out that I don’t support the political statements. I am not looking to start a fight.

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          The ACLU stopped being neutral long ago, if they ever were.

          Fuck the ACLU at this point.

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            FYI, as someone who has only seen good work from the ACLU, If you don’t explain what they did that you consider wrong, I’m gonna assume you’re potentially a mentally ill lunatic, rather than having rational grievances.

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        Everything is political. Unfortunately. BUT I am for ANY org that is in favor of individual rights and freedoms. Haven’t looked at the ACLU in a while tho tbf

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          The ACLU isn’t to bad but they are definitely liberal. However, the work they do benefits us all. The EFF is a little less left leaning so I tend to prefer articles written by them.

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            Less left leaning than liberal? Are you suggesting the EFF is conservative?

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              No, I am not. I am saying they are a little less politically extreme. They are left leaning but they less public about it. They still have left leaning views but they aren’t as vocal about it.

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        Saying it won’t help on Lemmy. When its users see anything related to politics, they will fight. Just ignore it.