• Swarfega@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    99
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    Mobile gaming is awful these days. The vast majority are just cash grabs.

    That said I look forward to Balatro being released

  • Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    69
    ·
    3 months ago

    This really upsets me and periodically bums me out. I used to like trawling through the top lists to see the various games that were on mobile. This is back in like 2011-2013. Typically monetization was either a free/premium version split, or an energy system. Now it’s beyond 99% garbage with 99% of the last 1% being ports. The 1 of 1? Slice and Dice, that game rocks.

    • StreetCash@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      3 months ago

      and then you go through the top paid games just to find… the same top paid games from the last decade. Nothing of value is being created or getting recognition

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        There could be a vicious cycle where game devs who want to be taken seriously don’t touch mobile games, so as mobile game devs develop skills and experience, they move away from the platform.

        Also a lot of the thick frameworks that many devs rely on these days require a lot of computing resources that maybe mobile devices have trouble keeping up with. I could see scenarios where a mobile game is worked on for a while but abandoned due to awful performance in early testing while a similar desktop game doesn’t get killed because it’s being developed on a high end system and later gets optimized to run better on weaker systems.

        Though tbh, I have no idea how top phones compare with high end desktops these days and am just assuming that they are way behind, while low end desktops might be more comparable to high end phones for performance.

        • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          I suspect that most of it comes down to passive cooling, most phones dont have active cooling systems like fans so even if it has decent specs its gonna bottleneck rather rapidly.

          • XIIIesq@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            12 days ago

            There were brilliant games from the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s that ran on comparatively primitive machines. A decent phone today can very easily emulate a Gameboy an N64 or even a Playstation 1 or Xbox.

            I understand that many people think good graphics = good game and vice versa but I think an interesting story, novel puzzles or original concepts are so much more important than how real a game looks. High-end computing power is simply not required to make a great game.

            I agree with other people in the thread, people just don’t want to pay £40, £50, £60+ for a mobile game, they want it for free and then complain when the games are a grind unless they pay all the micro transactions. Good games won’t come unless people are willing to pay for them.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          I’ve not seen hard numbers but it really seems a high end phone is pretty comparable to a low end laptop performance-wise these days. Both do a great job of displaying webpages, playing web video and can kinda crunch through an optimized enough video game at a low enough resolution

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      3 months ago

      Same. I used to play a number of games, and even paid for a few, but the gems are just too hard to find these days.

      So now I pretty much never play games on my phone, which does a few things:

      • phone battery lasts a lot longer
      • my time on my phone is more productive
      • I use a lot less data, so I pay less for my plan
      • I don’t need flagship phones (not a photographer)

      So now I mostly use my phone for:

      • phone things (calls and texts)
      • audiobooks
      • news
      • videos - I restrict myself to downloaded videos to help reduce wasted time

      I have a Switch and Steam Deck, and quality game selection is much better there anyway.

          • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            3 months ago

            I would bet they add steam phone to the steam deck instead. Would be something new and with everyone just having wireless earbuds it could work.

            • SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              3 months ago

              Yeah, but then your buds die, and you’re either the schmuck holding a steamdeck to the side of gheir head, or the asshole holding their steamdeck an inch in front of their face with their GP on speaker explaining in grim detail the colour of the fluid seeping from their piles…

              • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                3 months ago

                You can plug in your buds case to charge on your steam deck. I don’t know anyone who regularly encounters that issue though. That’s like saying your phone can die mid call and then you won’t be able to make calls. Like sure, it’s happened to people but by in large everyone always has theirs charged and we didn’t NOT make wireless phones popular because of this one specific scenario.

                • SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  Don’t have a steamdeck, I did know you can charge stuff off it though. Idk about you, but I often forget to charge my buds, and forget things like my external battery or cables(or the buds themselves) at home as I run out the door.
                  I wasn’t saying that these scenarios would be a daily occurrence, but I can definitely remember enough times that I’d have to count on both hands I’ve seen someone making a call on the bus with a phablet or tablet. And maybe where you live people have enough respect for the people around them, but every city I’ve ever lived there’s someone talking really loud on speaker about something they really shouldn’t be at least once a month that I personally encounter.

    • DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      The only games I ever have on my phone now are gachas and paid for games.

      Also, I agree that Slice and Dice is awesome. I got the itch version which came with both android and linux versions.

    • Donjuanme@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      Slice and dice, magic research (2), Simon tathams puzzle pack, Bart Bontes color series, unciv, pathpix, pirates outlaws…

      There isn’t only ports and garbage, you just need to go deeper than the front page (and not ever browse by “free”)

    • Vent@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      I bought Slice & Dice after reading this comment and others in this thread and yeah, it’s pretty great. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    55
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    Good mobile game = ports from PC games and emulators

    miHoYo games could be so much more if they are PC/Console games instead of mobile.

    The only truly mobile game that I can think of that I can say is good is Pokemon GO, and I don’t even like it but is the only game that truly uses the uniqueness of the mobile platform as a game feature.

    • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’m in a closed beta for WalkScape, which is a single-player RPG that uses your pedometer for all game progress. Travel to another location? Chop down trees? Craft a bronze mining pick? Stomp grapes into wine? All of them progress only as you take steps throughout the day. A great little game to check in on now and then, and I feel utilizes the mobile platform well.

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        That sounds like the best things I currently use PoGo for. I love chewing through eggs with my daily bike rides

        • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          It’s neat, if fairly barebones. You pop open the game, see if you’ve completed your current activity (reached a destination you walked to, finished crafting through your item stack, gathered materials until your bag is full) then designate the next thing you’ll do. But, it’s F2P, ad-free, and the devs are very genuine! There’s another beta wave soon because they’re showing it at Gamescom! https://walkscape.app
          Also, it’s more forgiving than POGO since it uses STRICTLY pedometer (step count), so it doesn’t try to see if you were running too fast, changing location, etc.

    • derpgon@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      I, for the love of God, cannot play Genshin on mobile. The controls are absolutely garbage. On PC tho, it is really good.

      • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 months ago

        My problem with Genshin is not even that. The game is a mobile first and that limits the mechanics of the game.

        If the basic Normal/Hard Hit + 1 skill + ultimate is shit on mobile imagine if they implemented combos like DMC.

        • derpgon@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          It is way deeper than that though, or at least that’s what I think about the endgame content.

          Sure, exploration is piss easy, but the Abyss not so much.

          • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            The last levels of Abyss is more about team comp + good items than what you can do with the combat.

            Of course you need to dodge and switch characters efficiently but the ceiling of the game is low. You have some interesting things like the 2H characters jumping + attack but is not like a essential skill of the game.

  • Artyom@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    3 months ago

    I was early into mobile gaming, and it used to be AWESOME! It was a platform oozing with potential. Every game that came out on mobile was excellently crafted…until Candy Crush came out. It literally ruined the whole genre.

      • acceptable_humor@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        If you play games like monument valley 1 & 2, dadish, 20 minutes till dawn and games similar to that you’ll see how polished mobile games can be.

        Edit: Game name correction

      • Artyom@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 months ago

        Doodle Jump wasn’t the pinnacle of gaming, but everything about it was polished to perfection. The devs really put in the effort and finished the game, which is a rare feeling even in AAA games today.

        • kewko@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Rose tinted glasses here, extremely simple game loop and it still had bugs and hit box issues under some conditions

      • Rubanski@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 months ago

        But the potential was there, not a mtx nightmare in 80 percent of games. I would still say that great games like minedustry or better are still possible nowadays

          • Rubanski@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            Minedustry hast no mtx, it’s even free on Android. I bought the game on steam to support the developer even tho I don’t play it on steam

  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    34
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    The best game I’ve played on Android is the Kotor port.

    The second best game I’ve played is the Into the Breach port.

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        3 months ago

        It does, the gameplay works well on a small screen (actually better than Kotor in some ways), and I’ve generally found that turn-based stuff works well on touchscreens. Twitchy action stuff doesn’t work so well - I found the GTA ports unplayable.

        Also, I think Aspyr did a really nice job retooling the Kotor UI for smartphones, and they also did Kotor II.

    • velvetThunder@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      Well there are Gems like Temple Run, Subway Servers, Jetpack Joyride (earl Angry Birds). But most are cheap garbage with lots of ads.

      • ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 months ago

        Plants vs zombies was originally pretty good. I had originally bought it many years ago. Tried to play it again recently and the thing I paid for is some ad infested dumpster fire. Made me ignore all mobile games. Even the good ones can be ruined as you have no control of updates when you change phones.

  • 🩸Bloodmouth🩸@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    3 months ago

    Terraria, but it’s a lot better on PC. You can transfer your character files and maps with a little effort though.

    DevilutionX is pretty good if you liked Diablo 1.

    And then there are the insane lists of ROMs/emulators.

      • fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        GBA Final Fantasy ports are great as well as Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Also highly recommend Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga and Golden Sun

      • 🩸Bloodmouth🩸@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        A lot of people don’t realize their phones can emulate PS1 fairly easily now.

        If you’ve got a good phone you can even emulate GameCube, Dreamcast, PS2, & 3DS; which opens up a lot of options.

  • Raab@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    Old-school RuneScape being on mobile makes it the best mobile game of all time

  • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    There’s an insane number of PC ports. You can play Myst or GTA SA.

    On the multiplayer side, genshin is very much your traditional MMO, if you like that. You can also play Eve or Hades star.

    In terms of a competitive scene for years we had vainglory (forever in our hearts), and now we have LoL wild rift.

    • Ibaudia@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Genshin is more your traditional singleplayer Gacha with MMO elements in my opinion. Also the first successful open-world Gacha so it gets some brownie points for that.