“Not really fair to nazis (cites BBOC)” jesus christ and that’s still up while the person who said nazis/sympathizers should be shot has their comment removed. Scratched liberals show where their preference is in “both are bad” the second is the USSR is defended.

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    Treating morality as a math problem is so stupid. Did you know that Audie Murphy killed more people than the Golden State Killer, the Zodiac Killer, and the BTK Killer combined? Therefore he was mathematically more evil than all three of those serial killers combined I guess, reasons and the nature of the victims be damned.

    Also these people never want to scale for time or number of participants: the Nazis were around for a measly ~12 years, while the USSR was around for ~69 years hentai-free, and Nazi Germany was one nation while “the communists” during the Cold War consisted of several nations.

    Treating the Black Book numbers as though they’re reliable (they aren’t) for the sake of argument:

    Nazis: 17 million divided across 12 years is ~1,416,666 per year average deaths, from one nation / political project.

    The Communists: 100 million across 69 years is ~1,449,275 per year average deaths, from multiple nations / political projects.

    The Nazis weren’t going to stop themselves, they had to be stopped by the USSR. If they had lasted as long as the USSR, they would have comparable kill-counts to what the extremely unreliable Black Book of Communism attributes to the Communists. If you added in the kills from the other fascist nations (Imperial Japan in particular) instead of deliberately skewing the comparison by having all of communism throughout the Cold War against only the Nazis, then the fascists far outpace the communists, even by bullshit Black Book numbers.

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      Also the nazi number is a low ball if you count missing civilians, there were something like 20 million missing Soviet citizens, presumed dead

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        even if you ignore missing civilians it’s a lowball, the european theater of world war 2 was like 30-40 million deaths. I don’t see any good reason 100% of those deaths shouldn’t be billed to the nazis.

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      Treating morality as a math problem is so stupid. Did you know that Audie Murphy killed more people than the Golden State Killer, the Zodiac Killer, and the BTK Killer combined? Therefore he was mathematically more evil than all three of those serial killers combined I guess, reasons and the nature of the victims be damned.

      Excellent point