You think people renting out their property is immoral?
Correct. All wealth is the product of labor, therefore rent and profit are theft, and workers taking back a bit of the wealth stolen from them is good.
Jesus? No, Adam Smith actually. Yeah, it’s called the labor theory of value. I’m not sure why you think that’s a knee slapper. Never heard of it before? That’s like a creationist laughing because they haven’t heard of the theory of evolution before… in 2023.
This is one of those times where it’s not even worth bothering trying to argue. When your opinion and points are that bad there’s no getting through to you.
“When I realize I am trying to argue against a >century-old concept that I’ve never heard of before but has extensive literature written about it by many of the most world-renowned thinkers and scientists on socio-economics and that has had literal world-changing revolutions fought in large part because of it, I will still maintain my illusion that I’m not just an ignorant fool by pretending it’s actually the former that is ridiculous and not me.”
That’s fine by me, keep to your little bubble of ignorance. Kinda sad, though. Might I suggest reading a book some time?
Nobody is going to take you seriously when you say and believe things like this. Let me guess - you’re all for communism? Answer, don’t answer, I don’t care since you’re getting blocked now :)
Should have paid more attention to your username. “Pronouns in bio” is an instant nope.
Landlords are parasites that prey on the vulnerable and produce nothing of value. Corporations who own and profit from ”intellectual property” are no different.
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
I do think your position is super confusing, earlier in the thread you’re telling people to download stuff from Usenet, now you’re whining about ThEfT?
If you’re gonna profile stalk me to try and “gotcha” me with previous comments you’re gonna have to do better than that.
I’m not against piracy of tv shows/movies because as I said in other comments it’s essentially the most victimless theft you can do - but it’s still theft. You can do something and tell people to do it while still acknowledging that it’s wrong.
Gee I am shocked that you pulled the “yOuRe A tRaNsPhObE” card because I disagree with your stance. Shocked. Same old tactics from your kind every time. Can’t actually defend your position? No matter, just try and get the other person cancelled by shouting transphobe and telling lies!
Found the guy who would absolutely own slaves if it were still legal. (And then think he pwned the abolitionists by telling them they’re just jealous because they don’t own any people).
This moron who thinks a Marxist is “jealous” for not exploiting people thinks I’m delusional. e: And who also laughed because they don’t know what the labor theory of value is!
e: And as for the edit you added, yeah, there is a difference, but one of degree, not of kind. That was the point of the illustration by analogy genius.
“we legally define housing as an asset and not necessity so it’s morally correct to profit off of it”
Do you know how recent the concept of private property is to Australia? Jesus Christ LNP voters are dumb. 40,000 years of not profiting off of ““assets”” aka land was fine before, god forbid landlords actually have to get real jobs.
Literally never voted for the LNP in my 25+ years of voting, but never let the truth get in the way right?
god forbid landlords actually have to get real jobs.
Ah, found the problem - you think that everyone that is a landlord is a “professional landlord” who hoards properties as their job. This is factually incorrect. According to the last stats, almost 80% of all people with an “investment property” only own 1, and they own that 1 by it being their previous family home and then they simply keep it and rent it out when they upgrade to a bigger house or move to a different area. Those people aren’t “landlords” in the way you think they are. They have jobs. They aren’t living the high life raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars in profit a year.
I’m one of those btw. I bought my first house and lived in it for almost 15 years, then when I had a family and some nice savings and was ready to settle down we bought a new house where we want to grow old. Don’t need to sell the previous house so just keeping it, hoping to one day hand it down to our kids to make their life easier. Both still work full time, and the rental is barely breaking even.
People need to separate the professional investment property buyers from the “bought a new house so will just rent the old one out” because they’re very different.
There’s absolutely something immoral about stealing. If you don’t think there is then it just means your morals are out of whack.
You think people renting out their property is immoral? Yeah nah, your opinion on this is wrong.
Correct. All wealth is the product of labor, therefore rent and profit are theft, and workers taking back a bit of the wealth stolen from them is good.
Jesus Christ 😂
Jesus? No, Adam Smith actually. Yeah, it’s called the labor theory of value. I’m not sure why you think that’s a knee slapper.
Never heard of it before? That’s like a creationist laughing because they haven’t heard of the theory of evolution before… in 2023.
“Rent is theft”
“Profit is theft”
This is one of those times where it’s not even worth bothering trying to argue. When your opinion and points are that bad there’s no getting through to you.
“When I realize I am trying to argue against a >century-old concept that I’ve never heard of before but has extensive literature written about it by many of the most world-renowned thinkers and scientists on socio-economics and that has had literal world-changing revolutions fought in large part because of it, I will still maintain my illusion that I’m not just an ignorant fool by pretending it’s actually the former that is ridiculous and not me.”
That’s fine by me, keep to your little bubble of ignorance. Kinda sad, though. Might I suggest reading a book some time?
“Rent is theft”
“Profit is theft”
Nobody is going to take you seriously when you say and believe things like this. Let me guess - you’re all for communism? Answer, don’t answer, I don’t care since you’re getting blocked now :)
Should have paid more attention to your username. “Pronouns in bio” is an instant nope.
You’re telling me rent is theft?
You’re telling me profit is theft?
Landlords are parasites that prey on the vulnerable and produce nothing of value. Corporations who own and profit from ”intellectual property” are no different.
Found the guy who’s jealous he doesn’t have an investment property.
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
I do think your position is super confusing, earlier in the thread you’re telling people to download stuff from Usenet, now you’re whining about ThEfT?
edit: Surprise, you’re also a transphobic piece of shit.
If you’re gonna profile stalk me to try and “gotcha” me with previous comments you’re gonna have to do better than that.
I’m not against piracy of tv shows/movies because as I said in other comments it’s essentially the most victimless theft you can do - but it’s still theft. You can do something and tell people to do it while still acknowledging that it’s wrong.
Gee I am shocked that you pulled the “yOuRe A tRaNsPhObE” card because I disagree with your stance. Shocked. Same old tactics from your kind every time. Can’t actually defend your position? No matter, just try and get the other person cancelled by shouting transphobe and telling lies!
Found the guy who would absolutely own slaves if it were still legal. (And then think he pwned the abolitionists by telling them they’re just jealous because they don’t own any people).
😂 good lord you’re delusional. There’s a slight difference between thinking you can profit off your assets that are in demand, and owning slaves.
This moron who thinks a Marxist is “jealous” for not exploiting people thinks I’m delusional.
e: And who also laughed because they don’t know what the labor theory of value is! 
e: And as for the edit you added, yeah, there is a difference, but one of degree, not of kind. That was the point of the illustration by analogy genius.
You think using an asset you have to make money is theft 😂. Yes, you’re delusional.
“we legally define housing as an asset and not necessity so it’s morally correct to profit off of it”
Do you know how recent the concept of private property is to Australia? Jesus Christ LNP voters are dumb. 40,000 years of not profiting off of ““assets”” aka land was fine before, god forbid landlords actually have to get real jobs.
Literally never voted for the LNP in my 25+ years of voting, but never let the truth get in the way right?
Ah, found the problem - you think that everyone that is a landlord is a “professional landlord” who hoards properties as their job. This is factually incorrect. According to the last stats, almost 80% of all people with an “investment property” only own 1, and they own that 1 by it being their previous family home and then they simply keep it and rent it out when they upgrade to a bigger house or move to a different area. Those people aren’t “landlords” in the way you think they are. They have jobs. They aren’t living the high life raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars in profit a year.
I’m one of those btw. I bought my first house and lived in it for almost 15 years, then when I had a family and some nice savings and was ready to settle down we bought a new house where we want to grow old. Don’t need to sell the previous house so just keeping it, hoping to one day hand it down to our kids to make their life easier. Both still work full time, and the rental is barely breaking even.
People need to separate the professional investment property buyers from the “bought a new house so will just rent the old one out” because they’re very different.
Keep demonstrating your sheer ignorance, guy. I’m here for it.
Sovereignty was never ceded, you’re profiting off stolen Aboriginal land, you muppet.
🤣 oh boy. See ya.
And what precisely is the moral issue with stealing? Depriving someone of their personal property, which piracy is not.