Several experts tell ABC News that the odds are against Donald Trump being sentenced to jail in his hush money case next month -- but others say it could happen.
Trump’s sentencing in his New York hush money case is scheduled for July 11.
There is no good outcome even in the cards. If he goes to jail it will feed into his base’s persecution complex. If he gets off easy, nothing’s more insufferable than an unpunished malignant narcissist. If he gets a huge fine, he will not pay.
If he goes to jail it will feed into his base’s persecution complex.
If he doesn’t go to jail then they will probably say that he isn’t really a convicted felon because he wasn’t a convict at any point because it doesn’t matter what happens, they will twist it into a persecution complex somehow.
I really wish people would stop worrying about actually holding shitheads accountable.
they will probably say that he isn’t really a convicted felon because he wasn’t a convict
That doesn’t make sense. A convict is just that: someone convicted of a crime, it doesn’t depend on jail-time served. Donald Trump is guilty of dozens of felonies for election finance violations related to illegal cover-up payments. So yeah, I totally expect them to say that…
The “good outcome” is no jail sentence until after the election (or just probation). trump loses the election, and then is found guilty on any other case and then goes to jail for that because he’s no longer a “first time offender”.
The worst outcome is sentenced to prison before the election, but reporting is delayed till after the election and then Trump wins.
If that happens, he’s never giving up power and he won’t wait till the next election to pull some more stupid shit.
The problem with this approach is it literally is the weaponization of justice that the right loves to screech about. Timing Trump’s trials or sentences to hurt him the most politically is twisting justice to our own ends, even if done in a theoretically altruistic manner. True it might lead to the best outcome for the country, but is that the risk we want to take- that if Trump does win, he won’t see any punishment for his crimes at all?
On the other hand, I recognize this is the exact moral quandary that the right loves pushing non-conservatives into, and while we’re arguing amongst ourselves about the best way to unfuck this pretzel they’re busy burning it all to the ground. So I wouldn’t say you’re wrong necessarily, just that it’s an uncomfortable path to tread.
Timing Trump’s trials or sentences to hurt him the most politically is twisting justice to our own ends, even if done in a theoretically altruistic manner
I was saying that’s the most likely he lands in prison where he belongs…
Not that multiple states should collude to stall cases…
I mean, the states have been trying to get these moving for years. How would anyone rational accuse Dems of “timing” things?
If you’re worrying about what republicans will say, don’t. It doesn’t matter what happens, republicans are going to say some stupid shit. Stop worrying about what they’ll complain about, if they don’t have anything to complain about, they’ll invent something. And their voters can’t tell the difference anyways.
I’m just tired of predicting what will happen long term, or the most likely path to a possible result, and having people act like I want that result or am trying to make it happen.
It’s the same logic that got medicine women burnt as witches centuries ago. Move past it.
Whether the person making a prediction wants it to come true or not doesn’t matter. What’s important is how likely the prediction comes true
There is no good outcome even in the cards. If he goes to jail it will feed into his base’s persecution complex. If he gets off easy, nothing’s more insufferable than an unpunished malignant narcissist. If he gets a huge fine, he will not pay.
let them feed their persecution complex. we can lock them up, too if they get unruly.
If he doesn’t go to jail then they will probably say that he isn’t really a convicted felon because he wasn’t a convict at any point because it doesn’t matter what happens, they will twist it into a persecution complex somehow.
I really wish people would stop worrying about actually holding shitheads accountable.
I’m not “worried” so much as not excited about dealing with it.
That doesn’t make sense. A convict is just that: someone convicted of a crime, it doesn’t depend on jail-time served. Donald Trump is guilty of dozens of felonies for election finance violations related to illegal cover-up payments. So yeah, I totally expect them to say that…
Gotta think long term.
The “good outcome” is no jail sentence until after the election (or just probation). trump loses the election, and then is found guilty on any other case and then goes to jail for that because he’s no longer a “first time offender”.
The worst outcome is sentenced to prison before the election, but reporting is delayed till after the election and then Trump wins.
If that happens, he’s never giving up power and he won’t wait till the next election to pull some more stupid shit.
It’s hilarious that you guys think he’s more likely to win if he’s sentenced to jail.
This makes no sense at all.
You seem to think he’ll gain votes from this guilty verdict when everything points to the opposite.
You guys give magats so much more credit than they deserve these people are cowards to their cores.
I think a bunch of ignorant folk view this conman as their hero and the prosecution of law he broke a political witch hunt by the left.
Which the right only says because they are itching to start their political hunt.
I think there’s a sharply increased chance of political violence and domestic terrorism if he gets imprisoned before the election.
The problem with this approach is it literally is the weaponization of justice that the right loves to screech about. Timing Trump’s trials or sentences to hurt him the most politically is twisting justice to our own ends, even if done in a theoretically altruistic manner. True it might lead to the best outcome for the country, but is that the risk we want to take- that if Trump does win, he won’t see any punishment for his crimes at all?
On the other hand, I recognize this is the exact moral quandary that the right loves pushing non-conservatives into, and while we’re arguing amongst ourselves about the best way to unfuck this pretzel they’re busy burning it all to the ground. So I wouldn’t say you’re wrong necessarily, just that it’s an uncomfortable path to tread.
I was saying that’s the most likely he lands in prison where he belongs…
Not that multiple states should collude to stall cases…
I mean, the states have been trying to get these moving for years. How would anyone rational accuse Dems of “timing” things?
If you’re worrying about what republicans will say, don’t. It doesn’t matter what happens, republicans are going to say some stupid shit. Stop worrying about what they’ll complain about, if they don’t have anything to complain about, they’ll invent something. And their voters can’t tell the difference anyways.
I’m just tired of predicting what will happen long term, or the most likely path to a possible result, and having people act like I want that result or am trying to make it happen.
It’s the same logic that got medicine women burnt as witches centuries ago. Move past it.
Whether the person making a prediction wants it to come true or not doesn’t matter. What’s important is how likely the prediction comes true