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    It barely scrapped by surviving, so obviously it was all pretend, right?

    You do understand that they already know how a vote will go when legislation is brought up, right? There is no “scraping by”, it either has the votes or it doesn’t.

    Voting for or against something to virtue signal is not some crazy out there concept, it’s routine practice from both parties. The Democrats do the same thing.

    If I’m a GOP politician, and I’ve been railing against healthcare reform and demonizing the concept, going on Fox News talking about Death Panels and other stupid shit, to the point where now even my spineless “moderate” opponents have conceded the entire debate about universal healthcare and are ready to settle for a forced private insurance schemethat I created, why would I vote for it if I’ve convinced the Democrats to do it for me?

    There’s no downside to voting against, I get my forced private insurance bill and I get to go back on Fox and keep up my anti-healthcare reform schtick and dunk on the Democrats. There’s no political benefit to voting for ACA and then having my base of dimwits go “Hey, wait a minute! Durrrr you spent the last 6 months talking about how Obama and the ACA are communism!”

    Progress takes actual effort, hard work, and time

    Effort and hardwork? Yes. Time? No, not really. The lie about time is what has you so tripped up – change doesn’t necessitate generations and generations, that’s simply speech design to pre-defeat an effort. The only thing standing in the way of change are those who buy into Democratic bullshit excuses.

    Remember when Biden implemented Sanders child rax credit and it instantaneously halved child poverty? Yeah, that is how quick change can be.

    I’m not voting for people because I want a functioning healthcare system for my great great grandchildren, I’m voting for people who want to make it happen now, in my life time instead of making excuses to protect political failures like Biden and co.

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      Oh yeah McCain never shocked everybody by suddenly changing the vote. /S

      Nobody said generations to write specific legislation. May take consistent victories to move the Overton window, that’s not the same as writing specific legislation.

      But yes it does take time to figure out exactly what you’re going to do, who supports what in detail, because you do have to get House Representatives to vote for it (and they don’t just fall in line like the gop), the funding, the million details, and then write it up. Do you know what a party whip is? Ever wonder why they need a party whip? Like tell me you’ve never worked on anything complicated, it’s like trying to corral cats.

      Inb4 but GOP. Repealing other legislation takes next to nothing. You don’t have to craft anything in any detail. You just have to say no. I noticed you didn’t respond to any of that.

      So yes, it takes actual effort, work, and time. You live in a fantasy world if you think people just snap their finger and the world changes in every aspect on a dime.

      Why am I bothering. You’re neck deep way over your head in conspiracy theories.

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        But yes it does take time to figure out exactly what you’re going to do

        Which democrats gave had. There was 0 excuse when Obama had a super majority to not gave abortion legislation ready. In fact they did. Talk about not knowing about the details.

        Stop making excuses for them, you’re not helping anyone by trying to deflect oressure, you’re only actively aiding in the false narrative about “it requires time”. If you continue to make excuses for the chronic, decades long failure to meet the mandate given to Democrats by the American people it can only be assumed you want to trend of abject failure to continue.