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    10 months ago

    Funny how quickly and easily the media can turn “generations” against each other

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        10 months ago

        Can’t blame them, my generation popularized social networks even after finding out what they were for.

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          I can blame them for picking the one that is spyware for the world’s largest hostile dictatorship, you absolute concavebrain moron. Anybody who at this point doesn’t realize what TikToks intended purpose is are willfully ignorant.

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              150 Million Americans are giving the keys to the kingdom to a hostile militaristic dictatorship with the potential to do harm on a scale beyond anything you’ve ever seen

              in return for vines but worse.

              This is one of those issues where “GET MAD” is the correct response.

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                “GET MAD” at the proper institution/organizations/companies, not your fellow commenter, who is not even denying what you’re saying. I’m not saying you’re wrong, you’re just being a dick about it.

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                  I live in a democracy. The proper institutions and organizations to police this issue is my fellow commentator.

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                “Hostile militaristic dictatorship” is just the United States. There’s almost zero difference between the US and China in those regards. The only real difference is that Chinese citizens are actually being lifted out of poverty at a rate not seen at any point in history while the US is continuing to impoverish their citizens. Both of them spy on their citizens and have insanely racist cultures.

                There’s no moral difference between using TikTok and Facebook.

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                  Ji Xinping has no term limit and was unanimously reelected by the single party congress, completely unopposed. China does not select their leadership.

                  The USA criminalizes and punishes misconduct like massive data collection, such as the FCC fining FaceBook 5 Bn USD, but China created and operates an even more invasive and far reaching data collection scheme on their own with TikTok.

                  Face it, loyal dog, China is the same monster it has been for a century, just waiting to add millions more bodies to the pile.

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            Believing the USA has better motives is pretty moronic too. Especially if you live in the USA

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              Oh is the local Democracy who fines companies like FaceBook billions for doing exactly what TikTok is trying to do

              equivalent in your eyes to

              The Militaristic Expansionist Hostile Dictatorship who created TikTok to do exactly what FaceBook did and rewards them accordingly?

              Thanks for you opinion, dude.

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                Again, you need to take a step back. The USA has had much more aggressive and violent international policies than China. It being a democracy (which is itself arguable) does not matter.

                And Snowden showed us that the USA are, again, not better than China in terms of mass surveillance.

                China is a problem, but if you can’t see why the global south sees them as a balancing force rather than a threat, well, again, take a step back.

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                  China is literally annexing it’s neighboring countries and killing multiple different ethnic minorities en masse. Not 60 years ago, not 10 years ago, right now. It’s happening right now.

                  Because they are a Dictatorship. They’re being ruled by an unaccountable class of people.

                  You know why Snowden was such a big deal? Because an arm of the US Government did something illegal by its own laws and he exposed it, leading to massive controversy and political action. Because in the USA the people have protections against that sort of thing.

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                    The US is continuing to engage in genocide by acting as the world’s largest weapons supplier to supremacist nation-states (technically all nation-states as supremacist by definition) such as Israel. The US continues to impoverish it’s own people on top of that and murders tens of thousands of people every year through refusing to implement healthcare alone. All total, hundreds of thousands of people die every year due to poverty in the US, mostly minorities.

                    This is the same government that also knowingly puts poisons such as lead in our water, see any of the numerous small towns in Appalachia where water is undrinkable; Flint, MI; or Jackson, MS—the latter being a capital of a state.

                    Yes, the US is a dictatorship. Our elections are a farce. Any attempt at making things better through the electoral system is impossible because it was literally designed from the ground up to be a compromised system where the national oligarchy has the final say. It would take a revolution and the abolition of the US state to fix any of those long-standing problems which are built-in to the system.

                    As for the ethnic cleansing of minorities—Indian Reservations still exist and when measured are some of the poorest nations, states, and municipalities on the planet. They are literally designed to keep people down by keeping them poor and unhealthy. I’ve been to a lot of places, and few places are people more miserable. The neglect from the US government to fix these communities combined with the still continuing violation of treaties at the behest of US-based corporations are an ongoing genocide on a similar scale (if not distributed) as was is seen in China.

                    Let’s not pretend the US has any moral authority on the matter here.

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      I don’t care what the source is, if there’s a Gen [insert whatever] or Millennials might be to blame for [insert whatever] I’m already at a -10 on the trust meter right out the gate.

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        I didn’t try my first avocado toast until like a year ago and lemme tell ya. Seeing as how eating it somehow went back in time and made me unable to afford a house, I expected it to be a lot more magical.

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      I see it plenty without the media stoking it. Here on Lemmy, etc.

      It’s the same dumb tribalism as always, often backed up by some real data or trends (that tend to get twisted)

      No, not every “boomer” is spoiled and ruining America, and 75% of the people you call boomers aren’t even boomers. Not every Gen Z is lazy and entitled and scrolling phones all day. Etc.

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        Crabs in a bucket. If we can’t find the things that make us alike with our cohorts, it’s going to be very difficult to ever affect any sort of change.

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          Boomers don’t consider any generation after them “cohorts”. They consider them subservient.

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        The median age of U.S. senators is 65. Who do you think is voting for those people?

        The Boomer generation absolutely deserves to be shit on.

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            Who the fuck would we vote for? Genocide Joe or Cheeto Mussolini? They rigged the primary against Bernie twice. Democracy is fucked in this country.

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            Buddy I’m not here to convince you of anything. If you wanna believe not showing up to vote is just as bad as making a conscious decision and the effort to vote for these procorporate trash ghouls in the Senate that’s your choice. As for me: I choose to say Boomers are responsible for who they vote for and who they vote for is trash, so they are trash.

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      the way they alienate gen z as being “conditioned” to like social feedback on ticktok is really denigrating to me. As if every other generation was not conditioned to believe certain social taboos, mores and practices. Same old “young kids don’t know shit” rhetoric. Which viewers at home will just ingest w/o any sort of critical thought process.

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      Also how quickly they can invent ‘trends’ we should be fearful of simply because some middle-aged reporter watched a couple similar videos online. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go eat some tide pods before my scheduled game of knockout.