Voice to parliament referendum fails in defeat that Indigenous advocates will see as a blow to progress towards reconciliation

Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

  • WhirlybirdEnglish
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    9 months ago

    Why should it? Why do they need a constitutionally protected advisory board that’s not guaranteed to be gutted by the government of the day and has no power?

    • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻English
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      9 months ago

      The symbolism that Australia is ready to listen is important. If it had power it would be all of those things that the no campaigners were making it out to be. What’s so offensive about an advisory body to help the government to spend money on First Nations Peoples in a way that is actually meaningful. Of course there was the risk that a government could misuses it’s flexibility to gut it, but they probably couldn’t do that without some political cost. The Voice was never the end goal it was supposed to be a step forwards together on the path to Treaty and Truth-telling. The all-or-nothing approach is very risky with the cultural problems in Australia and the amount of racism that surrounded the debate.

      • WhirlybirdEnglish
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        9 months ago

        What they should have done is just gone for recognition in the constitution. No stupid toothless advisory board, just constitutional recognition. That would have passed.

        The voice tagging along is what killed the whole thing. We’re not “not ready to listen”, we’re just not wanting to put a powerless advisory board in the constitution. Labor can have an indigenous voice every time they’re in power, nothing is stopping them. If the liberals get rid of it then it’s just showing that they’d completely gut and ignore the constitutionally protected voice anyway.

        • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻English
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          9 months ago

          What’s the point of recognition without actually doing something? This is how First Nations Peoples wanted to be recognised in the constitution, according to the Uluru statement from the heart

          • WhirlybirdEnglish
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            9 months ago

            So it’s not about recognition, but about actually doing something? A powerless advisory board doesn’t do anything. There are plenty of them already.

              • WhirlybirdEnglish
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                9 months ago

                Yeah and a powerless easily ignored advisory board isn’t that.

                • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻English
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                  9 months ago

                  I confused as to what you’re trying to say: The referendum failed because the Voice was attached to it which people didn’t like it but at the same time it didn’t promise enough? I doubt the result would’ve been any different if it promised to do more than what the proposal offered

                  • WhirlybirdEnglish
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                    9 months ago

                    The referendum failed because the pointless, vague, virtue signalling voice was attached to it. Had there been 2 questions on the referendum, one about recognising indigenous people in the constitution, that absolutely would have passed while the voice one failed.

                    Had they actually committed to something that would be guaranteed to help indigenous people because it gave them some power, and importantly been able to give us all the details about it and how it will, that would have had a much better chance than the voice we got.