I’ve said for a while that what’s needed is precisely this…but more. Eliminate LDR entirely within city boundaries, and automatically make it all LMR. And then also conduct a review into upgrading as much CR1 into CR2 as possible.
It should be safely assumed that if you live within 20km of the CBD you’re likely going to have your house turn into units or apartments because people want to be close to the CBD
If you want a house there’s plenty of space further out
If you want a house there’s plenty of space further out
On the one hand, theoretically thats true…
On the other hand, people are moving out to Park Ridge / Greenbank / Flagstone / Springfield and buying ~300m2 blocks with a new house for like $800k. It’s like the worst of every world! Ages away, tiny and cramped, and expensive.
Part of the reason it’s so expensive out there is simple overflow from it being expensive up closer. If you doubled supply within 10 km and ×1.5 out to 20 km, the price out further would also fall.
Totally true, was more a comment that “plenty of space further out” is starting to come with a disclaimer that “further out” means “really, really far away to the point where its not practical to daily commute to the city”.
I’m still more a fan of hubs than relying so heavily on a single CBD, but regardless density needs to change. We can’t keep sprawling.
I’m still more a fan of hubs than relying so heavily on a single CBD
More hubs is definitely not a bad idea… The number of people who currently commute into the CBDs of our biggest cities, and the extent to which our transportation networks are geared solely to that end, is concerning. A greater degree of multipolarity within our cities would be nice.
But on the other hand, to a certain extent, more centralised cities are a good thing and are necessary given Australia’s population distribution. Yeah, Brisbane could do a better job of making Chermside a more serious secondary hub, and Eight Mile Plains, but it’s probably not realistic to try and make Toowoomba or the Sunshine Coast bigger business hubs, let alone further out.
A big downside of more hubs is that it can kinda limit people’s options for employment. Today, someone in Redcliffe might have a long commute into the CBD, which is not great. If we added those Chermside and EMP hubs, they might have the option to work at Chermside. But what is likely to happen is some businesses stay in the CBD, some move to Chermside, and some move to EMP. And if they get a job at Chermside, they’re better off! But all those jobs that moved to EMP are now basically inaccessible to them. So from 20 jobs at a medium distance that they could work, there are now 10 jobs at a medium distance and 5 jobs at a close distance, for a total of 15 jobs—fewer available options. Less than ideal.
I’ve said for a while that what’s needed is precisely this…but more. Eliminate LDR entirely within city boundaries, and automatically make it all LMR. And then also conduct a review into upgrading as much CR1 into CR2 as possible.
It should be safely assumed that if you live within 20km of the CBD you’re likely going to have your house turn into units or apartments because people want to be close to the CBD
If you want a house there’s plenty of space further out
On the one hand, theoretically thats true…
On the other hand, people are moving out to Park Ridge / Greenbank / Flagstone / Springfield and buying ~300m2 blocks with a new house for like $800k. It’s like the worst of every world! Ages away, tiny and cramped, and expensive.
Housing is sharted.
Part of the reason it’s so expensive out there is simple overflow from it being expensive up closer. If you doubled supply within 10 km and ×1.5 out to 20 km, the price out further would also fall.
Totally true, was more a comment that “plenty of space further out” is starting to come with a disclaimer that “further out” means “really, really far away to the point where its not practical to daily commute to the city”.
I’m still more a fan of hubs than relying so heavily on a single CBD, but regardless density needs to change. We can’t keep sprawling.
More hubs is definitely not a bad idea… The number of people who currently commute into the CBDs of our biggest cities, and the extent to which our transportation networks are geared solely to that end, is concerning. A greater degree of multipolarity within our cities would be nice.
But on the other hand, to a certain extent, more centralised cities are a good thing and are necessary given Australia’s population distribution. Yeah, Brisbane could do a better job of making Chermside a more serious secondary hub, and Eight Mile Plains, but it’s probably not realistic to try and make Toowoomba or the Sunshine Coast bigger business hubs, let alone further out.
A big downside of more hubs is that it can kinda limit people’s options for employment. Today, someone in Redcliffe might have a long commute into the CBD, which is not great. If we added those Chermside and EMP hubs, they might have the option to work at Chermside. But what is likely to happen is some businesses stay in the CBD, some move to Chermside, and some move to EMP. And if they get a job at Chermside, they’re better off! But all those jobs that moved to EMP are now basically inaccessible to them. So from 20 jobs at a medium distance that they could work, there are now 10 jobs at a medium distance and 5 jobs at a close distance, for a total of 15 jobs—fewer available options. Less than ideal.