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    6 hours ago

    I don’t understand the train of thought. Do they need to compartmentalise their hate because they don’t trust the capacity of focus of their audience? Are trans and queer people so bad, they make gay people good in maga’s eyes? Are the social advances for gay people too settled for them to think it’s worth the effort to try and revert them? Do they want gay people to Stockholm syndrome ourselves in relief for not being a target for the moment? Am I assuming too much thought on their part and they just want to break stuff?

    USA politics are tiring as fuck and the fact that we can’t ignore them because they are going to affect the rest of the world to some extent is infuriating.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
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      They hate all of them, but they’re trying a divide and conquer approach. If they go for all the letters at once, they’ll get too much pushback, but they find that TQ+ don’t enjoy the amount of support the others have. Once they’re ‘done’, they’ll move on the others.

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      To answer your question, yes. Trans and a lot of queer people are significantly more gay than subtle or scared gay, lesbian, and bi people. Just being trans is seen as at least as gay as the most stereotypically gay man with the voice and the wrist and the fast walking.

      Any queer person who can approximate their identity as simply bi can seem less gay than if they call themselves pansexual or demisexual or something. If they/them or neopronouns get into the mix you become incomprehensibly gay.

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      Are the social advances for gay people too settled for them to think it’s worth the effort to try and revert them?

      It’s this one. Public opinion is accepting of the “LGB” portion by an overwhelming margin. I know a lot of queer folks whose conservative families are perfectly accepting of them these days, way different than it was 20 years ago. People who are intersex can get fucked though, apparently.

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          I don’t think that’s what’s happening at all. I think our trans brothers and sisters are suffering the brunt of a focused culture-war campaign to villainize them and drive conservative outrage. I think the LGB and QIA+ folks in this country are doing what they can in their communities to protect them and each other. Those in charge would seek to divide us and we cannot let that happen.

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      Are trans and queer people so bad, they make gay people good in maga’s eyes?

      The chief of Germany’s far right extremist party, the AfD (which is pretty extreme even by european far right standards), is a lesbian woman from Switzerland, and her girlfriend/wife seems to be some sort of “leftist” activist from Sri Lanka. There are definitely societal advances being made even among the extreme right, though it’s quite possible that that gets reverted as well once migrants, trans people and dissidents are ‘taken care of’.

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        Alice doesn’t sees herself as queer though, only lesbian. So she believes herself to be better and still hates the queer community. No advances here.