PZK [he/him]

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Cake day: January 22nd, 2021

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  • I don’t think I have seen all three at once before.

    Gee, it sure sounds like an appeal that the abductor would use to try to leverage a hostage situation. “You wouldn’t want them to get hurt… would you?”

    Beyond the absurdity of using a hospital patient as a metaphor, it also serves to ridicule it’s own position: A hospital patient is dying, you the doctor offer to save the patient by giving them medicine. This person ridicules you for even trying and casts you as a murderer if you fail.

    This argument is also projecting. It casts the socialist as not knowing what they are doing by messing with “levers that no one could possibly understand”. Yet the post implies that those unknowable levers are a perfect analogue to a patient who is hooked up to what is clearly an understandable apparatus of life support. It sounds like the argument doesn’t not in fact know what those nebulous levers are, yet describes the socialist position as clueless to the “complexity of society”.

    Better not try to fix the dying machine. It’s death is certain, but trying to save it is uncertain, and that’s too scary.







  • *Me saying a fairy tale scenario that will not exist under capitalism.

    *Reality standing behind me.

    You can’t and wont deliver a long term solution for “middle class” people by working within that system. The goal of capital is ultimately to have as few as people as possible, with as much power as possible. Any middle class you are talking about will become lower class and poverty class with enough time. It absurd that you can look at the current system and believe that it would ever deliver on your promise. Believing that it would work with an uncorrupt government is trying to say that there is an “ideal” version of capitalism out there and we just need to do that.

    You are looking at the only version of capitalism that exists. Any regulations, safeguards, and safety nets will be corrupted and withered away eventually because the people and institutions that supposedly uphold these ideals will be rewarded for doing so. You create a competitive class system and you are shocked and outraged when people cash it out to gain, or maintain their social class to avoid becoming lower class.