PROTIP: Opposition to interventionism in the Middle East does not have to equate to support for the currently extant states therein.

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    1 month ago

    May the ayatollah suffer as he dies and any gods witnessing his death remind him of the pain he brought to the women of his country.

    I stand with the people of Iran suffering under the boot of their evil governance

  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    “I know how I’ll support the anti-imperial cause! By supporting one of the longest imperial projects of human history predating even the civilization that gave us the etymological root of imperialism!”

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    By “actual Iranians” are you referring to the monarchist expats or people who actually live there? jw

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        1 month ago

        favorite ‘anti-imperialist’ regime is murderous and oppressive

        I didn’t even realize that was debatable, especially after the protest murders and executions.

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          1 month ago

          Don’t worry, you can still find plenty of tankies simping or "whatabout"ing for the Islamic Republic. They just file it away like Tiananmen Square - something to be excused or downplayed or deflected from.

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        1 month ago

        I have a bunch of friends there from college and plenty of them have issues with their government, some of them even live in America now. 100% of them have way more of a problem with Israels genocide than anything their government is doing.

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          1 month ago

          A whataboutism on an unrelated issue using “my Iranian friends”, no less! About what I expected after being confronted with the actual mass protests against the regime and the murderous response from the Islamic Republic, lol.

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          1 month ago

          To counter you anecdotal evidence: my partner fled from Iran 4 years ago and still has a lot of friends and family there. All of them would love see this regime fall, so much so, that her friends went out to protest One of them was arrested, tried and found guilty of corruption on earth. He was to not leave the country for five years and was threatened with an even harsher punishment, if he took part in protests again. He took to the streets the day after his release.

          These people hate their government with a burning passion. Doesn’t matter what Israel does, they would love to see this occupational regime fall.

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            1 month ago

            Yeah, the Islamic Republic is awful literally every Iranian person I know agrees on that, and it sucks that America meddled in their government for so long before it. Hopefully something that isn’t a western puppet government takes its place and actually represents the people.

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    1 month ago

    This support for fascism just shows how bad things are in the world and how there’s no hope.

    It’s a logical reaction and I can understand it. I think having multiple imperialism poles is better than having one global imperialist power controlling everything. Of course this world situation is a far cry from anything even remotely desirable, but I’d still be more satisfied with a US loss against China, Russia, Iran etc than from a US win against them. An oligopoly is better than a monopoly.

    Unfortunately we are stuck in the very unfortunate situation where the only viable alternatives are all fascists. I can understand the sentiment of supporting an opponent of the empire you are in, but people need to stop seriously supporting any empires.

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    1 month ago

    Can always count on OP to beat the shit out of a straw caricature of everyone to the left of Henry Cuellar.