• thezeesystem@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The real question is, why should we try to not eat beef for the environment, when corporations make 90% of all pollution in the world.

    Maybe focus on the 90% of the problem and not the individual people who but meat?

    • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      No corporation pollutes except to produce goods or services for human consumption, or for other businesses that provide goods or services for human consumption.

      Every gallon of gas burned is to power a vehicle to move you, or the goods you purchase.

      Every natural gas line leads to a house, of a business that sells things to houses.

      Theres no such thing as a corporation without consumers, we are where the buck is created, and where the buck stops.

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        Theres no such thing as a corporation without consumers, we are where the buck is created, and where the buck stops.

        Absolutely correct, glad to have read your comment. People need to start realizing they play a role in what’s to come. It’s a terrible mentality to think we don’t all have our effect on the future.

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          2 months ago

          Nah, you just don’t give a shit to believe you have any control over reality.

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      The thing about individual action is that if it works, it all adds up. But if people all blame the corporations, individual action makes no dent in the over 50% of emissions that individuals help make; a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yes, over 50%. Politifact goes into detail about how most emission indeed comes from consumption instead of corporate production.

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        Your own source disputes what you say.

        The original study did not include emissions from land use, land use change or forestry, or from sources such as landfills, agriculture and farming. It also did not include data on indirect emissions, which come from purchased energy such as heating and electricity, citing concerns about double-counting emissions attributable to corporations.

        The study relied on data collected by the Carbon Majors Database, which focuses on greenhouse gas emissions data from the largest company-related sources. In other words, The data derives from records of carbon dioxide and methane emissions relating to fossil fuel (oil, gas and coal) and cement producers dating back to 1854. … t’s difficult to discern how much total global emissions can be attributed to the top 100 polluting corporations, but there are ways to get a ballpark idea.

        If you use the total global emissions calculated by the Climate Analysis Indicators Tool, an average of around 60% of global emissions can be traced back to those 100 companies from 1990 to 2015.

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          The real issue is one of attribution. “Traced to” isn’t the same as “responsible for”. I have a hard time blaming Saudi Aramco for massive volume of oil consumption in the US. Yes the oil companies are eco terrorists too but the binary take is absurd.

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      I think your argument works if someone is stealing the beef.

      If they are buying it then that is directly funding that “90%”.

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      Because corporations make things based on the demand of those individual people. They don’t exist in a vacuum. And they’re not going to change because someone on the internet rants about them. Their only incentive is profit

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      2 months ago

      Corporation polluter the planet, therefore we should be allowed to torture animals. You got it boy