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    Bernie has massive balls here and he’s jewish himself. Call them like they are, Bernie! We should’ve had you in 2016 and 2020!

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        I can find an article from every month since Hamas attacked where he calls for a ceasefire, investigation into atrocities, or an end to Israeli funding.

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        Buddy, lemme tell you something, if you know anything about politicians and how they get their news. It’s a lot slower than you realize.

        Biden knows what’s going on ahead of time because his attention is there. Bernie might’ve been getting this as hand-down info for all we know. Plus, he’s probably gathering up quite a stockpile of claims backed by facts to use against Israel.

        You don’t think, do you? Idiot.

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          It’s a deluge of the commenters who totally aren’t russian shills but just coincidentally happen to be spreading the same messages (don’t vote! Both sides bad!) in the run up to a presidential election. It’s just the darndest coincidence.

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            It’s also people so lost in the sauce they can’t see reality in front of them.

            Check out this argument I had recently on lemmy. I was saying to someone that voting is important, even if we disagree with Biden on some very important issues, because abstaining is as good as voting for Trump.

            And this person, who I think is the owner of the entire instance they’re registered on if their username is anything to go by, repeatedly and aggressively insisted that voting can never accomplish anything.

            Reviewing their profile showed they’re pretty consistent in this belief. They seem to seriously think the ONLY option is violent revolution, and nothing short of that is worth a thing.

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            On Lemmy? Do they even know this place exists? Not exactly the world’s most popular social media network here…

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              Oh yeah - scroll around they usually dig a couple of pockets in each thread about the “pro genocide party” and other lifted russian mad libs.

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          Yea, Bernie just kicked off an investigation against Novo Nordisk regarding price inflations on medication (over $1000) when it costs ~$300 in Canada and Europe (I’m fudging the figures cause I cant remember). The man’s only got so much time in the day

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    They won’t, because they know if they do Israel will bomb them like they do other journalists and aid workers.

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      Also they’ll find Hamas selling aid that’s suppose to be given away for free and starving people intentionally to keep it’s coffers full…

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      The global pandemic, rise of fascism, the active collapse of global ecosystems, climate crisis and wealth gap are probably less of a problem there. But I bet they’re still stuck working in offices, so we have that going for us.

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      Damn, the world of a better place, i bet Boeing’s assassination crew would have got him tho.

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    Damn shame Bernie is not younger, because he would stomp on all the candidates and especially Putin’s Fucking Sock Puppet.

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      It was never in the cards, sorry to say. To be leftist means to grow stronger every time you lose. The Democratic Party would rather lose to Trump than win with a scary socialist.

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      Are you sure the majority of voters (plus the weird intermediate system) would vote for him?

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        In 2016, toward the end of the lead up to the primaries, Bernie polled higher than HRC when they were each given as an option to oppose Trump. I was in rural New York at the time and it was surprising to see so many Bernie signs. Somehow, he was able to reach blue collar America where other, recent Democrats have lost ground.

        As a populist, Bernie was a stronger candidate against the other “populist” (Trump) than the institution candidate (HRC). Naturally, the DNC would rather lose against a wannabe-dictator than back someone who doesn’t swallow their entire load.

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          One of the biggest mistakes from the DNC was indeed pushing for HRC in 2016. And the more corporate/centrist Dems continue to resist and fight the progressives today.

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            Mistake? It was intentional. Sanders represents a threat to the political establishment.

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        If Hillary didn’t want to get payback on bill, and get an oval-office-closet-job from an intern so bad, Bernie would have had a much better chance.

        Disclaimer: This is a joke on the internet.

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        No. America has been well conditioned and will not admit reality until unchecked greed inevitably collapses the global economy, again.

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        I’m pretty sure they would.

        Biden fucking sucks. Only genocidal racists and corporate facists still support him.

        Trumps beyond a fucking criminal, and in a hypothetical head to head, probably worse.

        Bernie is the only other American politician of the previous decade who has been competitive at a national level, and enjoys widespread popularity. Democratic apologists will have you forget the rat-fucking, but not everyone is blind.

        Bernie could actually win.

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          Biden fucking sucks. This is true.

          Unfortunately, vote for anyone else, or even don’t vote at all, and you increase the chance of bringing us someone who will turn the dial up to 11.

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            A month ago, I would agree with you.

            Not after this week.

            Biden’s blown any chance he had. You’ve got a better chance of getting Maryanne Williamson into office.

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              That’s not true. Bidens changes may get tighter, but the logic of what I said is consistent. Vote for anyone but Biden, and you increase the chances of trump.

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                Biden was floundering in December/ January. He had a strong state of the Union.

                He’s doing worse now then he’s ever done. He’s in an actual tailspin.

                You are not better off supporting Biden. You are better off finding another candidate.

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                  Again, nothing I said is wrong. You seem to struggle with the core concept, and are just applying your own.

                  Regarding your concept, it’s comical to suggest another candidate in this month of this year, who is not the dnc or rnc nominee.

                  Any other candidate is a spoiler for one of the leaders

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              The question is not whether you like or don’t like Biden. The question is not about the morals of lesser evilism. The question is about is the left going to be able to organise in the future, or is it going to get crushed by force. Is that an end result you can get behind that might justify the means of *checks notes* spending five minutes to do the possible within the limits of the current material conditions, i.e. turn up to the fucking ballot booth.

              Biden’s blown any chance he had. You’ve got a better chance of getting Maryanne Williamson into office.

              Who? I mean sorry I’m European but if I haven’t heard of her no she doesn’t have a chance. Ballots aren’t decided by policy, first and foremost they’re a popularity contest and the first step in that is be known. Second step, make sure people believe you can win, appear to have enough support to actually be worth a shot. Then policy comes into play. Biden has the first two nailed down because institutional inertia, policy don’t matter if your other candidate doesn’t reach that bar.

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          Just so you know I don’t consider myself a genocidal racist or corporate fascist but I will be proudly throwing 100% of my support behind Biden and will encourage all around me to do the same. You should vote Biden by the way…

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            Reminds me of the “I’m not racist but…” trope.

            Its like what they say about Trump. Not fascist by #1 with fascists.

            Have you heard that german phrase? “If there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.”

            Biden has had so many opportunities to do better and he’s refused to do so at every turn. If you vote for this guy, you support the genocide of Palestinian people, and the conversion of Israel into a fascist pariah state. Biden is in complete support of Bibi, and everything happening in Gaza right now. He’s worse than Trump when it comes to cracking protestors heads (happening, right now). Claiming the right to protest when you are supporting and announcing that order must prevail? He’s dismissing the students right to protest and affirming the Universities and polices right to criminalize the protest. And its killing his extremely limited chances at success. You just can’t see it because he’s a Democrat and you can’t see past the color blue.

            We’re better off supporting Cornell West at this point, and he’s ran his campaign like an idiot. Biden has no chance because it just isn’t in him to hold Israel accountable.

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          What most people are trying to say:

          Despite the flaws that Biden has shown, including his inaction regarding Gaza, or action depending on perspective and topic, he has gotten quite a bit done. However, he is bipartisan in a time where we do need a hard and stalwart, more progressive candidate and leader. We have been pulled so far to the Right as a country that fairness so often seems like some distant memory. What we need is a sharp twist of the wheel and, honestly, I think all of us together can accomplish that with four more years under Biden. A way to stop Trump and buy time for us to carry the momentum that all this growing anger and frustration is giving us.

          Let’s use the system as it is, get our people in, improve it, and knock out all these corrupt old bloods.

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            Let’s use the system as it is, get our people in, improve it, and knock out all these corrupt old bloods.

            This fantasy is a talking point Democrats have been laying out since 2008. It hasn’t worked. Capitulation to the lessor of two evils only emboldens evil.

            Supporting Biden at this point is basically handing the election to Trump. He’s blown it. He can’t win without the youth vote and no amount of siccing the police on the college kids or wagging your finger is going to fix Biden’s fundamental flaws. Biden can not win without 100% of the 18-24 year olds and 100% of the progressives.

            We’re actually better off rallying behind literally anyone else.

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              Supporting Biden at this point is basically handing the election to Trump.

              Holy contradiction, Batman! If you support Biden, it actually lessens the chances of Trump being elected. Also, your solution at this point is to be as apathetic as possible and discourage everyone from voting in turn handing the election to Trump? Real genius like thinking there, champ.

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        I don’t think Leftists would. All it takes is one hint of anything not 100% in alignment with whatever that individual Leftist believes, and they’ll drop support.

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      did you not see what Israel does to journalists

      and aid workers, but I believe that is the point

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    With how Israel has been killing journalists, this is not going to happen. Those mainstream media, that support Israel, know well enough what is happening. It’s not like they actually believe their own lies.

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    You spelled Sanders wrong. It’s in the headline, how do you even do that? And why are you posting reddit links here?

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      It’s weird to me how posts can get tons of upvotes, but yet a comment criticizing the post gets a lot more upvotes then downvotes.

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    Bernie appropriately giving the anti genocide slogan to throw at media everywhere.

    “Go to gaza” “Point your cameras at the children Netanyahu is killing and ask them if they condemn hamas.”

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    Why would for-profit media companies do something like that? It’s dangerous, expensive and brings in less money than clickbait about celebrities.

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    “our audience don’t want to see that. They just want to know who Tay-tay fuckin’.”