Lots of good information. Explains many of our current issues

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    I see this has caused controversy! Interesting

    I saw him pop up recently in another thread. I don’t ever think someone holds all the answers to the world problems or someone or something is wholly responsible (maybe besides greed) but I think it’s important to be exposed to other narratives and views to make a better sense of the world.

    I don’t claim that his narrative is correct but it’s interesting to think about the concepts he presents

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      I think Chomsky says a lot of wise things, but some people deify him and act like his words are holy and righteous and it’s not a good look.

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    1 year ago

    I don’t want to listen to an imperialism apologist and genocide apologist about anything. Maybe Chomsky has a point, maybe not, but he isn’t educated in economics beyond the undergrad level, and has had completely idiotic opinions on world events, so

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      @Cleverdawny @Gbagginsthe3rd

      Gov’ts singularly listening to economists on the cause of our current recession is what’s causing our current recession.

      Economists aren’t always the best judge of much these days, and not being one shouldn’t disqualify anyone from having an opinion on the current shit storm we face.

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        I used to compare them to Tarot Card readers but it then occurred to me that at least Tarot Card readers can do cold reading. So my advice to economists is try to get to the accuracy of Tarot for now.

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        I don’t think our government should be solely listening to economists, but I don’t think that this means the government should be listening to an arrogant linguistics professor who has his head up his own ass and cannot critically examine his own intellectual failings.

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        “everything I don’t like is CIA propaganda: a child’s guide to political discussion”

        And yes, he has been running interference for Putin and used to run interference for the fucking Khmer Rouge. I don’t need his opinion like I don’t need Henry Kissingers. Although at least Kissinger would know what he is talking about, as a very competent ghoul.

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          I’m a skeptical and distrustful person by nature and not afraid to kill my heros because of this. So, when I started seeing this stuff circulating on reddit, I checked it out.

          I go into detail as to why I believe what I do in my other responses to this comment and cite my sources. If you want to make an actual argument instead of name calling feel free to make one there.

          Thanks.

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            Dude the man is so anti American that he was willing to enthusiastically enforce Khmer Rouge propaganda. He’s just the lefty mirror to Henry Kissinger, except ignorant and less evil.

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                had significantly more nuanced arguments

                Nuanced arguments about how the West must be lying about the genocide in Cambodia.

                Dude, I am okay with people generally critical of the West. Especially within the context of the Cold War. Chomsky goes beyond that. His initial assumption is that everything the West is doing is bad.

                That means his thoughts aren’t useful or insightful. They don’t change based on the situation. It’s just a better sounding version of your typical anti-west screed from anyone ranging from edgy 14 year old Marxists trying to piss off their parents or some aging hippie.

                And it isn’t propaganda, it’s what he wrote, praising the regime of brutal murderers and discarding the accounts of survivors and escapees as propaganda.

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                  That’s the first sentence in the second paragraph. Did you read the rest?

                  Can you show me what Chomsky wrote that you mentioned?

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        Can you take the CIA propaganda commie shit back to reddit Lemmygrad please?

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          I researched this propaganda when I started seeing it on reddit.

          Have you or are you just a reddit echo?

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            Yes I have not only researched things said about Chomsky, I’ve read his books.

            Chomsky is absolutely a genocide apologist. He also is an apologist for the Russian invasion of Ukraine

            https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1496477076571967495?t=-NNeiILslEjE8Zuz9IxLbA&s=19

            He has the political/economic mind of a 14 year old edgelord. He’s not an expert at all (in these subjects. He is a fantastic linguist) - he’s just a minor commie celebrity

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              The audio cuts out in your video. Maybe because I don’t have a twitter account?

              That said I have read the Ukraine scientists argument against Chomsky’s ‘position’ (most of it is a strawman) as well as Chomsky’s response.

              https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/the-ukraine-war-chomsky-responds/

              I’ve also read several of his books and his response to the genocide denial claims.

              Here’s a post with some excellent comments on the topic.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/rv16ie/what_did_chomsky_actually_said_about_bosnia/

              Both claims against Chomsky reek of CIA/neo-liberal propaganda, imo.

              As to your comments seeking to discredit Chomsky’s expertise in this area, he’s an intellectual who has been following, protesting, and speaking out against Western Imperialism since the Vietnam war.

              Neo-Liberalism (the Democrats) and Fascism (the modern GOP) aren’t the only choices and being critical of neo-liberalism =~ tankie or Russian apologist.

              That’s CIA propaganda and I’m sorry to see it follow posters from reddit.

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                I’m sure that smart people existing here does make commies sad

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                  This is really your best counter argument to everything I posted? Trolling?