Another day, another round of vindictive and regressive policy from this government.

  • registrations going up
  • fuel tax going up
  • public and active transport slashed by $1bn
  • 15 new, uncosted roads announced

Remember when these guys campaigned on the cost of living?

  • Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz
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    9 months ago

    I seriously doubt you’d have any experience working out of a vehicle. Besides, they’re usually bought and driven because they’re both a trade vehicle, and a family wagon.

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      9 months ago

      I know many tradies mate, they all use vans except one, and he complains constantly about his Ute.

      I also make deliveries, would never use a Ute. Van is the way to go.

      Besides, none of this addresses the point. None of the ones I’m talking about are not trade/family vehicles. I see mum’s dropping kids off, bank people and REAs driving to a showing all the time. None of these need a massive fucking Ute that never carries anything or goes off-road.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, like when they go hunting or tow a boat. Vehicles with two wheel drive and bugger all ground clearance are awesome like that.

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          9 months ago

          Plenty of tradie vans are 4wd and have decent ground clearance. And their tools won’t get nicked out the back.

          Oh and don’t forget, plenty of places don’t allow you to use your work vehicle during the weekend anyway.

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            9 months ago

            First, four wheel drive vans are incredibly rare, and tend to have the same ground clearance as the two wheel drive versions. Second, it’s just as easy to break a window in a van as break into a ute canopy.

            And if you’re self employed, you can do whatever you want with your work vehicle.

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              9 months ago

              I personally know two tradies with 4WD vans, and of the builders who worked on our house back when we were building, half had 4WD vans.

              Sure, it’s just as easy. But then why have a ute with a canopy when a van can hold more cargo, and has a bigger roof for long items like ladders, pipes and wood? And even if we say a canopy is great, most of the actual tradie utes I see don’t have any bed cover. The ones with canopys are invariably white collar workers.

              Just today, I saw 5 utes with signwriting on my morning commute. One was a landscaper hauling bark, fair enough. The others were a engineer, an farm insurance company, an electrical wholesalers and a power tool salesman. They sure needed those utes didn’t they?

              And if you’re self employed, you can do whatever you want with your work vehicle.

              Of course, although you have to be careful about how to claim the gst and tax on fuel etc. You are supposed to track work-related use separately.

              Most tradies are not self employed though. I rarely see sparkies, plumbers or builders driving in their company vehicles during the weekend. I have a sparkie mate, and he’s the only one in the whole company who is allowed to use his van for personal use, all the others aren’t (except the boss of course).

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          9 months ago

          Because Joe from Joe’s plumbing is going to empty the van of all his tools, supplies and parts in order to take it hunting each weekend.

          Work vehicles are exactly that.