Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday that ā€œmillions will be killedā€ in his countryā€™s war with Russia without additional funding from the United States.

CNNā€™s Kaitlan Collins asked Zelensky in an interview to respond to comments made by Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), who claimed Ukraineā€™s outcome in its war will not be changed even if it receives the President Bidenā€™s $60 billion aid request. Zelensky said he wasnā€™t sure if Vance ā€œunderstands what is going on here.ā€

ā€œTo understand it is to come to the front line to see whatā€™s going on, to speak with the people, then to go to civilians to understand ā€¦ what will [happen to] them without this support. And he will understand that millions ā€¦ will be killed. Itā€™s a fact,ā€ Zelensky said.

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    9 months ago

    Genocide is awful. If Russia were doing that in Ukraine, Iā€™d be all for a war over it. This is a war over a couple ports Russia wants. Completely irrelevant to america, and not our problem.

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      Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine, assuming we are using the rather expansive definition that people are now using for the Israel-Hamas conflict.

      The US should definitely support Ukraine, but Europe could do a hell of a lot more to ramp up war production. All the talk is about US aid, but the Europeans are being massive pussies. They brag about sending more food and medical aid, but Russia wonā€™t be intimidated by that. Europe needs to convert to a war economy, massively ramp up war production, and supply Ukraine with unlimited military equipment. This is a war whose outcome will be determined by industrial production, which means Russia will certainly win if Europe doesnā€™t get its collective ass in gear. The US should take the opportunity to ramp up military production as well, but the Europeans are a lot closer to the action and have much more at stake. The Europeans should agree to take the lead on Ukraine while the US gears up for competition with China.

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        No, they are not. Israel is though. These things have definitions for a reason. If Europe and Russia want to have a war, they can go right ahead. America needs to stay out of it though. Fuck their wars. I would happily dodge a draft, as would most people I know. America needs to learn to make money by building things, instead of by blowing them up. No war with Russia, no war with China, ever. If Congress wants a war, it better be drafting every single child of a congressman first. Otherwise Americans are not going to show up.

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          Iā€™m not sure where you are getting the idea that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is somehow less genocidal than what Israel is doing. At least Israel has the excuse that they were attacked by Hamas, and that Hamasā€™s ultimate goal is the extermination of Israel. Ukraine did nothing to Russia and has no thought of eliminating Russia as a country. Ukraineā€™s only ā€œcrimeā€ was being friendly with the West, which also has no intention of eliminating Russia, except in Putinā€™s paranoid fantasies.

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          Russia abducted and deported thousands of children. That alone meets the criteria agreed upon in the UN for genocide.

          The lowkey pro-Russian takes you have are as transparent as they are full of logical inconsistencies.