I’ve often wondered if one of the reasons this bullshit keeps going is that some percentage of cops and judges just think, “I’m too tired for this crap” and let it go, so the SovCit thinks their legal argument is valid.
It happens, for sure. I had an acquaintance who was a cop say that she didn’t feel like dragging the dude out of his car that day, so she wrote a ticket, wrote ‘refused to sign’ on it, and threw it in the truck bed.
My personal opinion on whether she acted like that every time an arrest would have had to get physical aside, I bet the next officer who dealt with the dude when he had a warrant for failing to appear at court had to get physical. Just delaying the inevitable.
Ive commented about that before, If I were a cop and saw the “sovcit” plates on a car I would definitely have to take a moment to consider if I have the patience to deal with their bullshit today.
The only remedy for this is for real citizens to go full vigilante on their arse.
Sovereign Citizen plates on are car are a request to have your tyres slashed.
Honestly, I have more respect for a criminal who doesn’t have plates, or has stolen plates because at least they admit that they are breaking the rules.
SovCit idiots are just fucking idiots who think that the laws do not legally apply to them.
I like to think that every now and then a judge sits one of them down and explains to them that they have been given some very terrible legal advice that doesnt work and wont be accepted. Gives them an extension and tells them to get a lawyer or they will be going to jail.
Sadly, I’ve seen videos of judges saying stuff like that, and the SovCit saying the judge is just trying to scare them into not sticking to their rights or whatever.
I think the reason it keeps going is that communities get more extreme over time.
I remember seeing an explanation for this a while ago, and don’t remember the full details. The explanation went something like: say a group starts getting more extreme. A less extreme member might see that and drift away from the group. There are probably plenty of groups they can join that are less extreme. OTOH, imagine a group starts drifting towards the center. People with more extreme views might not have a more extreme group they can join, so they stay and fight the change. Because the people with extreme views are the ones who don’t drift away, the group tends to get more extreme over time.
I would bet that with Sovereign Citizens, the people who have doubts are pushed out. If someone says “this didn’t work”, other people will say they didn’t do it right, or that they’re lying, or that they’re an agent of the deep state who is trying to discredit them. The extremist people who are sure it works are the ones who stick around.
So, even if 99% of the time it doesn’t work, the SovCit keeps going because the extremist people stick with the group, and new members join over time, while the less extreme members drift away, including those who discover it’s all BS.
I’ve often wondered if one of the reasons this bullshit keeps going is that some percentage of cops and judges just think, “I’m too tired for this crap” and let it go, so the SovCit thinks their legal argument is valid.
Basically filibustering a traffic stop.
It happens, for sure. I had an acquaintance who was a cop say that she didn’t feel like dragging the dude out of his car that day, so she wrote a ticket, wrote ‘refused to sign’ on it, and threw it in the truck bed.
My personal opinion on whether she acted like that every time an arrest would have had to get physical aside, I bet the next officer who dealt with the dude when he had a warrant for failing to appear at court had to get physical. Just delaying the inevitable.
Ive commented about that before, If I were a cop and saw the “sovcit” plates on a car I would definitely have to take a moment to consider if I have the patience to deal with their bullshit today.
The only remedy for this is for real citizens to go full vigilante on their arse. Sovereign Citizen plates on are car are a request to have your tyres slashed.
Honestly, I have more respect for a criminal who doesn’t have plates, or has stolen plates because at least they admit that they are breaking the rules.
SovCit idiots are just fucking idiots who think that the laws do not legally apply to them.
I like to think that every now and then a judge sits one of them down and explains to them that they have been given some very terrible legal advice that doesnt work and wont be accepted. Gives them an extension and tells them to get a lawyer or they will be going to jail.
And I want to think they listen.
Sadly, I’ve seen videos of judges saying stuff like that, and the SovCit saying the judge is just trying to scare them into not sticking to their rights or whatever.
Possibly some of them, or they eventually realize nobody else is playing by their rules.
I think the reason it keeps going is that communities get more extreme over time.
I remember seeing an explanation for this a while ago, and don’t remember the full details. The explanation went something like: say a group starts getting more extreme. A less extreme member might see that and drift away from the group. There are probably plenty of groups they can join that are less extreme. OTOH, imagine a group starts drifting towards the center. People with more extreme views might not have a more extreme group they can join, so they stay and fight the change. Because the people with extreme views are the ones who don’t drift away, the group tends to get more extreme over time.
I would bet that with Sovereign Citizens, the people who have doubts are pushed out. If someone says “this didn’t work”, other people will say they didn’t do it right, or that they’re lying, or that they’re an agent of the deep state who is trying to discredit them. The extremist people who are sure it works are the ones who stick around.
So, even if 99% of the time it doesn’t work, the SovCit keeps going because the extremist people stick with the group, and new members join over time, while the less extreme members drift away, including those who discover it’s all BS.
Oh, definitely. Police, I can definitely see them giving someone a warning, not so much a judge.