• Whirlybird
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    Trump got 74 million votes. They’re Nazis.

    So everyone that voted for trump is a Nazi? Everyone that voted for trump wants the jews and all non blonde hair blue eyed people to be rounded up and killed?

    If you vote for fascism, you are a fascist.

    You guys really are killing the meaning of these words. No party is promoting fascism. One party is promoting silencing their opponents though, which is a big element of fascism. Can you guess which one it is? Hint - not who you want it to be.

    Giving people the benefit of the doubt or a second chance is what caused Trump in the first place.

    Trump being elected was a combination of the democrats being so out of touch with the general population that they thought just paying millionaire celebrities to shill for Clinton would resonate with the average joe. They thought that neglecting half the population would work, while also demonizing them. The fact that trump got elected should tell you that the democrats were half the problem at least, because it got to the point that people would rather a terrible meme worthy business man with the worst wig and fake tan in the world be president than the competition.

    The majority of people in here are just so completely clueless on how far gone they are in their bias, it’s insane.

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      So you think it’s important to distinguish between “eradicate transgenderism” and “eradicate transgender people”. Because the second would be Nazis and the first is just Republicans.

      And you really need that subtle difference.

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        Yes, absolutely you need to point out the difference between the 2, and no, it’s not a subtle difference.

        One is calling for a literal genocide, killing thousands of people.

        The other is calling for an end to people with an agenda pushing and encouraging kids who don’t know any better to “come out” as trans before they even know what gender is.

        Trying to say they’re even remotely the same is pathetic and really showing your agenda.\

        Because the second would be Nazis and the first is just Republicans.

        It’s not just republicans that are against the current trans ideology and indoctrination. I know because it’s literally impossible for me to be a republican on account of not living in your country, and I’m not even close to being a conservative before you go there. I have no problem with trans adults whatsoever. Live your life how you want, call yourself whatever made up pronouns you want, wear dresses or pants or whatever the hell you want. What I do have a problem with though, is when people are telling and encouraging impressionable pre-teens and teens, many of who still believe santa clause and the easter bunny are real, that if they are a boy and they like playing with barbies they are actually a girl and are trans, so they should start taking life altering drugs and then get life altering surgery that will literally make them a “big pharma” patient for life, and will now have a ~40% chance of committing suicide.

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      Umberto Eco. Timothy Snyder. Fascism has been studied. MAGA meets the criteria. You conflated 2016 with 2020. Trump and MAGA couldn’t be classified as fascist in 2016. By 2020 it should have been obvious. 74 million said, “Give me more of that fascism.” The Nazis were fascist, therefore Trump is a Nazi. The people that voted for him, voted for fascism. Therefore, they are fascist. Logic, bro. I don’t like it. I have family that are fascist. I’m not going to wait for them to turn over my gay neighbors before calling them fascist. Learn what it is now, before it’s too late.

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        What “fascism” are people asking for? Actual examples that meet the definition of fascism please.

        In your link, what criteria does “MAGA” meet? (I’ll humour you and overlook the fact that “MAGA” is literally just a catchphrase for returning america to being “the (self proclaimed) greatest country on earth”).

        America has a 2 party system. Democrats and republicans. If you don’t like the democrats and their policies and handling of the country, you vote republican. That doesn’t mean you’re a Nazi, and anyone suggesting it does is just telling people to ignore them and their crazy opinions.

        Your logic is “I declare trump a fascist, therefore anyone that votes for him is a nazi”. That’s terrible, terrible, idiotic logic.

        Also not really sure who declared Umberto Eco the expert on Fascism.

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          Learn to debate. The logic is sound. You just can’t hear it.

          Eco literally grew up in Mussolini’s(the original) fascist Italy. He wrote the book on fascism. Literally.

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            He wrote a book on fascism.

            The logic is not sound. The entire “logic” is based on wanting something to be fascism, so calling it fascism, and then using that same terrible “logic” to classify tens of millions of people as a nazi based on nothing other than wanting to call them nazis.

            I guess I’ll keep waiting for those actual examples that meet the definition of fascism, right? Surely you’re going to list them, right?

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              Your ignorance is boring me. C’mon man. Give me something to convince me. At least give me doubts. The description of fascism is in the links. MAGA meets the criteria. Nazis were fascist. MAGA = Nazi. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. They are never going to declare themselves Fascist or Nazis. Would you?

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                So you still can’t actually provide any examples of this fascism by “MAGA”?

                “MAGA” isn’t a person btw. It’s not a group of people. It’s a catchphrase.

                Again I’ll ask since you’re the one making the claim - provide evidence that all the people that vote republican are Nazis.