can’t there be a middle ground between thin-skinned identification with mayoism and performative self-flaggelation
genuine theory-based understanding of white supremacy and an active willingness to not reaffirm and complete the self-flagellation rituals. this ironically means believing you’re One Of The Good Ones, but innately, instead of trying to affirm it. (This makes sense because I always got the impression the issue with “not all men” type statements was their implicit ignorance of what are social statements, not blanket statements, so the reason they’re annoying is because they’re technically true but in a way that misleads readers away from social analysis. I’m just some cracker but if you were to apply this same principle to this conversation it seems like saying “I hate white people” isn’t actually annoying in that way because it doesn’t draw attention away from societal issues, though it may be annoying in the sense that it’s a form of toxic self-harm that could spill over if you used in excess)
if you were to apply this same principle to this conversation it seems like saying “I hate white people” isn’t actually annoying in that way because it doesn’t draw attention away from societal issues
On this site and in similar contexts (i.e. with an audience already pretty on board), I agree it doesn’t really shift attention. This site has never been about “optics” and I think that’s fine. In a different context, like if you were sharing critiques of white supremacy (in person) with someone who is ignorant of them, I do think that would be a distraction from the point and likely to confuse.
In a different context, like if you were sharing critiques of white supremacy (in person) with someone who is ignorant of them, I do think that would be a distraction from the point and likely to confuse.
Yeah, and I do have some faith, maybe misplaced, but some, that most people would immediately regard it as weird for someone to just constantly talk about how much they hate white people while someone else does serious analysis right in front of them.
genuine theory-based understanding of white supremacy and an active willingness to not reaffirm and complete the self-flagellation rituals. this ironically means believing you’re One Of The Good Ones, but innately, instead of trying to affirm it. (This makes sense because I always got the impression the issue with “not all men” type statements was their implicit ignorance of what are social statements, not blanket statements, so the reason they’re annoying is because they’re technically true but in a way that misleads readers away from social analysis. I’m just some cracker but if you were to apply this same principle to this conversation it seems like saying “I hate white people” isn’t actually annoying in that way because it doesn’t draw attention away from societal issues, though it may be annoying in the sense that it’s a form of toxic self-harm that could spill over if you used in excess)
I really agree overall.
On this site and in similar contexts (i.e. with an audience already pretty on board), I agree it doesn’t really shift attention. This site has never been about “optics” and I think that’s fine. In a different context, like if you were sharing critiques of white supremacy (in person) with someone who is ignorant of them, I do think that would be a distraction from the point and likely to confuse.
Thank you
Yeah, and I do have some faith, maybe misplaced, but some, that most people would immediately regard it as weird for someone to just constantly talk about how much they hate white people while someone else does serious analysis right in front of them.