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      So if you’re not pro Hamas, the terrorist organisation, you’re evil? That’s who Israel are at war with, and that’s who started it.

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      10 months ago

      What if you’re anti-Middle East as a whole? I’m entirely against it as it has a bad history with no resolution in sight.

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          10 months ago

          This has to do with racism or being against religious institutions and states? Hmmmm…

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              10 months ago

              Are you willing to explain how it is racist to see how that region has always has the pressing issue of devout followers of religions engaging in war? Compare and contrast with how secular countries interact with each other.

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                that region has always has the pressing issue of devout followers of religions engaging in war?

                From a historical context “That region” was in a golden age for hundreds of years with a heavy emphasis on education, engineering, and the arts. The downfall of the golden age is attributed towards elites maintaining too much political power and driving focus away from education and scientific output.

                Very similar to what we’re seeing with the US now. Your argument can entirely be pinned to the US now with Christianity, instead you choose to blame the region and the people for whatever reason that might be.

                The issue generally isn’t ever religion, religion is used as a tool to fuel hatred by the elites. I’m also not including the massive amount the US has fucked the middle east by unnecessary intervention to fuel their own geopolitical advantage and wealth, which again elites using fear and hatred to increase their power and wealth. People aren’t the problem the elites are.

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                  10 months ago

                  Greed is part of the puzzle. And, there’s a section of population that fully-well know what they’re doing, and in context of US, evangelicals as well as oligarchs are to blame for the current state within US. And looking at bad faith argument given by Republicans, yes, the people that supports then are to be considered at faults. If religion is being used as a tool, and it doesn’t offer anything from the materialistic point of view, then yes, you can argue for the abolition of religion as a whole.

                  And I do agree with that US interventions didn’t really help matters.

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                Almost all of Western history has some religious motive for anything happening. What are you on about?

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                  Yes, but we can see improvement in relationships between countries over time as influence of religious institutions waned down over time. We’re not seeing much of a improvement within regions that are more correlated with emphasis on religions, and especially Abrahamic religions.