• CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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          6 months ago

          Not gonna lie I’ve never seen a group of people as unhinged and obsessive as Hasan’s haters

          They have the uncooked minds of early pedo-era redditers but with the frenzied energy of kpop or barbz fans

          • GinAndJuche [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            6 months ago

            What’s wrong with disliking a grifter? He’s very good at adopting the aesthetic while, as you admit, being a John and wasting money on thousand dollar dogs instead of praxis.

            Has an lovers are the real redditors

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              6 months ago

              There is a difference between being a “Hasan hater” and just disliking him. I think he’s a grifter, but I’m not going around stuffing my little piggy snout in every bit of Discourse that I can find about who he fucked when he was 19 or whatever, and I can’t imagine someone doing that who is the slightest trace of well-adjusted unless perhaps they’ve got some people in their lives who attached to Hasan, but even then there’s only so much that posting about it online can accomplish.

              • GinAndJuche [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                6 months ago

                Hm, good points.

                Out of curiosity and the desire to self-reflect: is pointing out he is a grifter and self-admitted John “piggy snout shit” in your opinion? I admit to being the sort who feels the need to shit people when they are, in my opinion/from my perspective praised unjustly. I hate parasocial nonsense, hence my desire to shit on the targets of Parasociality if that makes sense.

                Feel free to be brutal, I would not have said this if I wasn’t open to being told I’m being wrong

                • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                  6 months ago

                  I appreciate the invitation but I don’t especially feel a need to dunk here. It comes off as a little bit para-antisocial to talk about someone having sex with an escort once when they were younger as though it is a significant point of evidence to who they are now, but pointing out that he is a grifter is a much more reasonable thing to say (which is why I reaffirmed that claim).

                  It’s getting deep into the Lore about their personal life and shit that I think can come off as some measure of obsessive or creepy [ and to be clear, I know a decent amount of Lore about other figures, I just don’t rush to exposit about it unless I think it’s funny or important – and e-celebs are rarely important in any facet] Like when LiberalSocialist made that post about Hasan fucking Michael Jackson’s daughter or whatever, I think it was pretty consistently the reaction from others in the comments that LibSoc should find something better to do than learn the names of every woman Hasan has been inside and how they (LibSoc) feel about the moral ramifications of each case.

                  By contrast, having a basic judgement of someone, “grifter”, “interesting”, “conspiracist”, “not for me”, etc. is much more expected because that’s just how we navigate our respective environments when it comes to most things in life.

                  Does that make sense?

                  • GinAndJuche [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                    6 months ago

                    That makes a lot of sense, but the LS stuff all went over my head. Before my time. The MJ stuff is admittedly, intriguing, but if you don’t want to take the time to explain I won’t hold it against you.

                    I still feel using somebodies financial status to leverage them into sex aka CW:R (which is something all Johns do) is wrong and should be yelled at people who it.