I don’t see what’s oniony about this, people that don’t pickup after their dogs should be severely and unusually punished. Extrajudicial is just extra justice.
Edit: not picking up dog poop is inconsiderate, murder is abhorrent. Do we really need /s on nottheonion too?
That’s the thing, if you say the title is non-oniony, it implies that you agree with the logic, or at least can believe it exists.
If you then make a joke using that same logic as a basis, you can’t then be surprised that people would associate it with the previous statement and think you were saying it seriously.
Sarcasm relies on pointing out faulty logic, while your joke was predated by a statement in support of the believability of that logic. Can you see how people are easily confused?
Thank you, im aware though. I just really like jokes and tagging one as /s lessens them.
It’s like a laugh track, rubber chicken, or rimshot. It just telegraphs the joke and robs discovering the humor. I know I’m very alone in this opinion by now, but the s/ is just a bad thing. We shouldn’t need a que to be on the lookout for the silliness in the absurd. Assume everyone’s playful and joking then you’ll laugh more. Disagree with something and make fun of it or riff with the stuff that you like. It’s just more fun.
Idk I’m reading more sides of it because it annoyed me. Considering polylingualists or nuerodivergents might not pick up on cues easily it makes sense, but it still feels like a big dumb wink that undercuts the humor and fun of it all.
I don’t know, I consider myself quite fluent in English, and I’m neurotypical, I still thought you were either an edgy 12 year old or someone that actually meant it, until i saw your edit
If you write a stupid opinion as a joke, but write it the same way a person seriously holding that opinion would have written it, then there’s not really any way to tell them apart, like it or not that’s just how it is, so either people have to guess you’re joking or guess you’re serious, and people usually lean towards serious
Exactly my problem with Poe’s Law; it exists because even on NotTheOnion everyone’s on guard to either go toe to toe or march in line. Like Poes Law doesn’t exist, because people are less intelligent like you mentioned before (hopefully sarcastically but I’d hate for you to spell it out for me), but just how people tend to look for an argument instead of optimistic engagement until proven otherwise. We’re all here starting and contributing to conversations because most of us care about these growing communities.
Kinda feels like you’re calling me an edgy 12 yo btw. How old are you? Was that a compliment from a ten year old or belittling remark from a teenager?
The core idea of Poe’s Law is that a parody of something extreme can be mistaken for the real thing, and if a real thing sounds extreme enough, it can be mistaken for a parody
What you wrote was a joke, but someone trying to be edgy could also write the same thing, or someone with a poorly thought out view of the world/justice could also write it, the issue is not with the readers but with the writer when the message is ambiguous, you cannot blame people for not knowing your intent, they aren’t mind readers.
With that last part of your comment I get the impression you’re not planning to discuss this civilly or seriously, so i think I’ll stop this here. have a nice day
I think a good rule of thumb is you probably shouldn’t be drawing a gun in any situation you’re not willing to risk getting shot over. Dog poop doesn’t pass that test for me and the gun owner probably shouldn’t be allowed to own a gun after this.
There’s plenty of more proportionate punishments for not cleaning up dog poop that live in the vast chasm between no punishment at all and getting shot.
Love this energy, but I don’t know about this skim shaming though. If we alienate a base that’s not reading then we run the risk of people reading more in general. Slippery slope
Skim shaming? What is this world coming to? Don’t lazy shame me? For fuck sake, don’t enter into a conversation to express your bullshit opinion without even knowing what the conversation is about. People like that DO need shame. Maybe if people in this world would be more ashamed of their actions, they’d stop being an asshole or fucking everything up.
Thought you were doing a bit but I’m not seeing any humor attempts here so adios, sorry to waste your time but I am not interested in taking this seriously.
I don’t see what’s oniony about this, people that don’t pickup after their dogs should be severely and unusually punished. Extrajudicial is just extra justice.
Edit: not picking up dog poop is inconsiderate, murder is abhorrent. Do we really need /s on nottheonion too?
You kinda need the /s if you’re gonna deny the onionnessof the article in the same comment.
Not trying to throwing stones here, but the headline isn’t oniony. Unfortunately it’s unsurprising gun news, it’s also not funny.
The sarcastic part was suggesting vigilante turd policing.
That’s the thing, if you say the title is non-oniony, it implies that you agree with the logic, or at least can believe it exists.
If you then make a joke using that same logic as a basis, you can’t then be surprised that people would associate it with the previous statement and think you were saying it seriously.
Sarcasm relies on pointing out faulty logic, while your joke was predated by a statement in support of the believability of that logic. Can you see how people are easily confused?
It’s called Poe’s law
Thank you, im aware though. I just really like jokes and tagging one as /s lessens them.
It’s like a laugh track, rubber chicken, or rimshot. It just telegraphs the joke and robs discovering the humor. I know I’m very alone in this opinion by now, but the s/ is just a bad thing. We shouldn’t need a que to be on the lookout for the silliness in the absurd. Assume everyone’s playful and joking then you’ll laugh more. Disagree with something and make fun of it or riff with the stuff that you like. It’s just more fun.
Maybe one day we’ll be rid of idiots and can say stupid shit without anyone thinking we’re being serious, but that day has yet to come I’m afraid
Idk I’m reading more sides of it because it annoyed me. Considering polylingualists or nuerodivergents might not pick up on cues easily it makes sense, but it still feels like a big dumb wink that undercuts the humor and fun of it all.
I don’t know, I consider myself quite fluent in English, and I’m neurotypical, I still thought you were either an edgy 12 year old or someone that actually meant it, until i saw your edit
If you write a stupid opinion as a joke, but write it the same way a person seriously holding that opinion would have written it, then there’s not really any way to tell them apart, like it or not that’s just how it is, so either people have to guess you’re joking or guess you’re serious, and people usually lean towards serious
Exactly my problem with Poe’s Law; it exists because even on NotTheOnion everyone’s on guard to either go toe to toe or march in line. Like Poes Law doesn’t exist, because people are less intelligent like you mentioned before (hopefully sarcastically but I’d hate for you to spell it out for me), but just how people tend to look for an argument instead of optimistic engagement until proven otherwise. We’re all here starting and contributing to conversations because most of us care about these growing communities.
Kinda feels like you’re calling me an edgy 12 yo btw. How old are you? Was that a compliment from a ten year old or belittling remark from a teenager?
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What you wrote was a joke, but someone trying to be edgy could also write the same thing, or someone with a poorly thought out view of the world/justice could also write it, the issue is not with the readers but with the writer when the message is ambiguous, you cannot blame people for not knowing your intent, they aren’t mind readers.
With that last part of your comment I get the impression you’re not planning to discuss this civilly or seriously, so i think I’ll stop this here. have a nice day
You read “extrajudicial is just extra justice” and didn’t think it was a joke.
Try funnier jokes?
Good note
I think a good rule of thumb is you probably shouldn’t be drawing a gun in any situation you’re not willing to risk getting shot over. Dog poop doesn’t pass that test for me and the gun owner probably shouldn’t be allowed to own a gun after this.
There’s plenty of more proportionate punishments for not cleaning up dog poop that live in the vast chasm between no punishment at all and getting shot.
If you read the article, you’d know that the poop man had the gun. People who don’t read should be judged. 🔫
Love this energy, but I don’t know about this skim shaming though. If we alienate a base that’s not reading then we run the risk of people reading more in general. Slippery slope
Skim shaming? What is this world coming to? Don’t lazy shame me? For fuck sake, don’t enter into a conversation to express your bullshit opinion without even knowing what the conversation is about. People like that DO need shame. Maybe if people in this world would be more ashamed of their actions, they’d stop being an asshole or fucking everything up.
Thought you were doing a bit but I’m not seeing any humor attempts here so adios, sorry to waste your time but I am not interested in taking this seriously.
Don’t serious shame.
TL;DR
You can’t read ;)