• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Get in a union. Or keep changing jobs just going to wherever will pay you the most.

    I have a union job and a non union part time job. Pay has gone up a decent chunk at both over the past few years.

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      10 months ago

      “Just get a new job” is a completely asinine take. Many many reasons people can’t. Someone with a family working full time doesn’t have the time or energy to develop the skills for a better job. Someone at fast food in a small town has the choice of other fast food or other retail which all pays the same.

      In my wife’s case, she cares for a disabled family member. If she didn’t do it, nobody would. She has no choice.

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        I mean I agree it’s not a very helpful take, but it is true. Right now is the best time in history to educate yourself and build skill sets that are marketable

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        If you chose to live in a small and isolated town, have no skills beyond line staff at a fast food restaurant, are unable to promote up to management there, and unwilling to travel, I’m sorry, but you sound like you dug yourself into a hole. I have a job I enjoy a lot, even if it’s not very high paying, but I still have the experience and skill set to go off and get at least 3 other jobs in 3 other fields that would pay me more, or even getting a job doing what I do now but at a higher paying place, but like I said. I like where I’m at.

        Stuff is expensive as hell now, but you can do something about it. It sounds like you may not want to choose any options that exist, though. If you’re dealing with something that totally prevents you from doing so. But hell, even work from home Apple help support reps start at like $45k/ year.

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          If you chose to live in a small and isolated down,

          And then on any post about housing prices, all you see are comments like “well you chose to live in an urban area!! If you liberals would just move to rural Alabama you could afford your rent!1!” So which is it?

          Then I get downvoted for saying there’s a million reasons people can’t just up and move, including a lack of jobs and other resources in rural areas. Besides, a majority of people don’t necessarily choose where they live. There are countless socioeconomic circumstances that dictate that.

          It’s just proof that people continue to fall for placing the blame on one another when it should really be directed straight upwards.

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          You sound like a 20 something, childless white guy that was spoonfed fox News. Glad you had time to build new skills. Some people have children or ailing/disabled families. Some people already work 2 jobs.

          Some people struggle, even when they do everything right. Callous ass.

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            Lol. Holy shit did you fly way off the mark. Try going with 40’s, fam with kids, and lean left. Housing assistance,snap, socialized medicine, taxing the wealthy, and all.

            Sure, you can have bad luck and get screwed in life, but right now the job market is WAY better than when I got out of highschool just before 9-11 happened. You can get a work from home job at $20 an hour right now, I drive a class B truck as a side job for $26 an hour, and there’s a rock quarry that hires green people for over $25/hr that end you up close to $35 after two years. I don’t live in some fantastic state, either. Midwest.

            Right now there’s a ton of work available if you go get your feet wet. The younger than me generation is screwed on housing costs right now. I’ll give you that, but so was most of my generation. But you also have the ease of an online education and remote learning making it far easier and cheaper to get into some things than anyone else before has. The job market was terrible when I got out of school. Now unemployment is low and unions are getting a hold again and companies are all having to pay more just to poach other companies for people. John Deer will hire you, pay you to go through their 6 month program to learn how to work on their tractors, give you a truck tool box decked out with tools and send you off as a repair tech for them for like $70k a year. There’s not a mechanic shop in the country that isn’t behind right now due to the high vehicle prices causing people to hold their old vehicles together longer that wouldn’t like another person to do mechanic stuff.

            I’m rambling, but the point is, there are pretty ok jobs out there right now. Businesses are willing to train you on the job from knowing almost nothing at this point. If you look and don’t live in the middle of nowhere, you can probably get hired doing something that pays better than wherever you’re at. Today’s economy no longer rewards loyalty.

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        I’m interested to know is that your wife’s job? You started out by saying people can’t just get a new job. Which is fair. But I’m confused as to if she is actually working. Not to say it’s a bad thing either way. We gotta do what we gotta do.

        The whole get a new job thing doesn’t work for everybody. But the main point behind it is employers are more competitive when searching for new talent. Thus hire wages. You don’t necessarily have to learn a new skill or change industries. Hopping from McDonald’s to Burger King might get you more money in comparison to waiting for a raise. Depends on your market and your industry.

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      10 months ago

      Get in a union

      Don’t just get in a union. First, get to know if what they’re doing is good for you, for the community, for the industry. Most unions have not been good for any of these in the last few decades.